OWENS-ILLINOIS MARK 4285G ~ WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR?

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[squirtbob]

Bob, I checked all my 7 OZ Owens-Illinois manufactured squirt bottles and found 4 that were produced at the Los Angeles (23) plant. All of the bases of LA bottles are marked 4285-G. These bottles date from 1941 (2), 1943, 1945. Two of them say Duraglas, two do not. Most of the non-LA produced bottles say G-94, but a few have no base markings other than the plant, <(I)> logo, and date. SB

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

Summary ...

What I am hoping to determine is whether 4285G is just a Los Angeles, California mark or if it is found on other city/states as well?

Gracias'

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

SquirtBob ~

Thanks a lot. It's starting to look as if there might be a direct connection between 4285G and Los Angeles plant number 23. Of course we may never know exactly what the number stands for other than all of the bottles so far have the following in common ...

1. Owens-Illinois
2. Los Angeles Plant Number 23
3. 4285G
4. 7 Ounce
5. Green Glass
6. Identical Size and Shape/Style

However, if even one bottle is found from a different city/state that has the 4285G, then it's back to the drawing board. By the way, do your G94 bottles happen to be marked with plant number 7 for Alton, Illinois?

Additionally, I'm trying to determine exactly when the Los Angeles plant number 23 began operation? Which means I might be wrong about the dates on three of my four bottles. If you rely on the charts, especially the one on the following link, it looks as if the Los Angeles plant didn't begin operation until 1949. And yet, two of my bottles are clearly marked with a single-digit 8, which has to be for either 1938 or 1948. But when you read the text part of the following link, it says the west coast operations were acquired by Owens-Illinois as early as 1932. It's confusing.

http://www.sha.org/research/owens-Illinois_article.cfm

Thanks again.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~

In the book "the Glassmakers revisited" which is a complete history of the Owens-Illinois Company, it too states that the west coast operations were acquired around 1932. So why then do the charts show a start-up date for Los Angeles as being in the late 1940s?

The chart below is scanned from Julian Toulouse's 1971 book, "Bottle Makers And Their Marks." Notice where the ( (start date) is placed for Los Angeles.

And now refer back to the chart I posted earlier where you will see other west coast dates of ...

21. San Francisco, CA #1 closed 1937
20. Oakland, CA ca. 1937 (Reassigned)

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's a link to another Owens-Illinois chart that shows 1949 for Los Angeles. If all of these charts are correct, then how is it possible I have two bottles from L.A. marked with a single-digit 8?

http://www.angelfire.com/tn/traderz/owens.html

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~ PS

I forgot to mention I have a "Bubble Up" bottle marked ... 23 <(I)> 48 ... with there being no question that the double-digit 48 stands for 1948 (It is also marked with Duraglas and is stippled).

 

[OsiaBoyce]

Here's novel idea.

Contact Owens-Illinois.

If anyone would know it would be themselves.
http://www.o-i.com/

There's even a # to call.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

ORIGINAL: OsiaBoyce

Here's novel idea.

Contact Owens-Illinois.

If anyone would know it would be themselves.
http://www.o-i.com/

There's even a # to call.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I tried that a couple of years ago and was told they no longer have a public relations department for such inquiries. I think they get bombarded along those lines and had to pull the plug on it. But irregardles, my 1948 Bubble Up is a clear indication the charts that show 1949 for Los Angeles have to be incorrect, at least by one year.

Bob

 

[squirtbob]

I have 7 G-94 7 oz. green bottles with date ranges from 1941 to 1957. 1 made in Streator, IL (9), 3 in Alton, IL (7) and 3 in Fairmont WV (3). With regards to believing the "text" or "chart" concerning when the LA plant started manufacturing ... the chart must be wrong. I have 4 different squirt bottles definitely dating 1941-1945 and all have plant mark for LA (23).

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

SquirtBob ~

Thanks a lot. It's starting to look as if there might be a direct connection between 4285G and Los Angeles plant number 23. Of course we may never know exactly what the number stands for other than all of the bottles so far have the following in common ...

1. Owens-Illinois
2. Los Angeles Plant Number 23
3. 4285G
4. 7 Ounce
5. Green Glass
6. Identical Size and Shape/Style

However, if even one bottle is found from a different city/state that has the 4285G, then it's back to the drawing board. By the way, do your G94 bottles happen to be marked with plant number 7 for Alton, Illinois?

Additionally, I'm trying to determine exactly when the Los Angeles plant number 23 began operation? Which means I might be wrong about the dates on three of my four bottles. If you rely on the charts, especially the one on the following link, it looks as if the Los Angeles plant didn't begin operation until 1949. And yet, two of my bottles are clearly marked with a single-digit 8, which has to be for either 1938 or 1948. But when you read the text part of the following link, it says the west coast operations were acquired by Owens-Illinois as early as 1932. It's confusing.

http://www.sha.org/research/owens-Illinois_article.cfm

Thanks again.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~

My 1948 Bubble Up is marked with 94-G and is identical to the other bottles in question ...

1. 23 <(I)> 48 ... (Los Angeles ~ 1948)
2. 7 ounce
3. Green