Please help me date this old bottle

[ChuckFinley]

I recently picked this old bottle at a yard sale and it had been in someone's collection. I've been researching it this week and I believe it's a hand blown molded bottle with attached finish and an open pontil scar. I can't find any examples of anything this crude. I think it's pre 1860s and could possibly be much earlier due to bottles of the period being quite a bit better made than this. What do you folks think?

 

[ChuckFinley]

Here's more pics

 

[DeepSeaDan]

Looks like a nice old cologne bottle with an open pontil scar, thus I'd take a stab at dating it circa 1860.

 

[ChuckFinley]

Oh I forgot to mention that it's 3 3/8" wide, 2 1/4" thick, and 7 1/8" tall.

 

[ChuckFinley]

Looks like a nice old cologne bottle with an open pontil scar, thus I'd take a stab at dating it circa 1860.

Cool I think it's awesome that it could be that old!

 

[J.R. Collector]

Is it possible this is a reproduction bottle? Pontil seems odd but also hard to see.

 

[sandchip]

I may be wrong here, but my gut is telling me modern. In hand would probably either confirm or discredit my feelings.

 

[ChuckFinley]

Is it possible this is a reproduction bottle? Pontil seems odd but also hard to see.

Anything is possible. I really cannot be sure. It seemed very crude even for the standard of the time. There were much nicer bottles produced in the mid 1800s.

 

[ChuckFinley]

To the folks saying this is a modern or reproduction bottle, this does not seem likely to me for a couple reasons. 1. It was purchased with a group of old bottles that was from an elderly collector who had passed away. All the bottles were at least 1930s. 2. I have been looking and I cannot find anything like it anywhere online, and if it was produced in the modern Era one could assume would have been mass produced. 3. It's so crude and mis shapen that for it not to be primitive, it would have to have been intentional to have made it that way. There is no flat surface on the thing. Even the bottom rocks when sitting. The pontil scar is almost a D shape which to me also matches some of the early 1800s processes. I know it's hard to tell from pictures. And I really do appreciate you all taking the time to look and comment on the thread!!

 

[CanadianBottles]

My guess is that it's European. It seems a bit too plain of a design to be a modern reproduction. Definitely doesn't look like old American glass to me but doesn't strike me as a repro either.