Thread: EARLIEST ACL SODA BOTTLE(S) ?
02-17-2016, 10:51 AM #351
I just heard from the New Mexico bottle club who had this to say about my "Pippo" bottle ...
"I emailed several of the NM soda collectors who knew of Pippo ACL bottles but didn't have information on them. One had 3. There must be a void on this soda. Would you post your pics to share."
(I sent the requested pictures)
02-19-2016, 11:07 AM #352
Lazenby's Liquid Sunshine
The Lazenby's Liquid Sunshine bottles and glasses were introduced in 1937.
The original artwork is dated 1937 also and has the outline of the state of Texas on it, and a star for Dallas where it was based.
Although I have a newspaper ad showing the date 0f 1934 from Florida.
The wooden crate has 25 slots for bottles, a super rare crate
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02-19-2016, 11:26 AM #353
02-19-2016, 11:03 PM #354
03-18-2017, 12:46 PM #355
The following Owens-Illinois Glass Company catalog recently came to my attention and claims to be from 1933. Please read the opening statement regarding how they determined the date. I spoke on the phone with Bill Lindsey a couple of years regarding something else and he is one of if not the most proficient bottle researchers I know. If he is confident the catalog is dated 1933, then so am I. However, there are no ACL soda bottles in the catalog, but there are ACL Tumblers/Glasses. This at least tells us the ACL process was being used / experimented with as early as 1933. I consider this significant even though it does not include ACL soda bottles.
File #19 shows lots of soda bottles, including embossed examples and generic examples that would accommodate a paper label.
Files #23 and #24 are where the ACL Tumblers/Glasses are shown.
Note: I plan to research some of the more recognizable tumblers (Mickey Mouse - Donald Duck - 7up) and see if they have an Owens-Illinois mark and can be dated. Here's the link to the catalog ...
The attached images are from the catalog ...
03-18-2017, 02:21 PM #356
I have found a lot of the Mickey Mouse glasses but so far only one of them included anything about who might have made it or when. The attached link is to the one I'm referring to, but the description is a little vague as to where the number 33 is located on the glass.
Copy/Pasted description ...
The following information is in the "The Collector's Guide to Cartoon & Promotional Drinking Glasses"
Mickey looking surprised with black vertical letters number 33
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03-20-2017, 11:58 AM #357
Follow Up ...
I have reason to believe the Owens-Illinois Catalog cannot be dated 1933. Open the link I posted and scroll to File #23 where you will see a Donald Duck ACL tumbler. As it turns out, nobody even heard of Donald Duck in 1933, and it wasn't until June 9, 1934 that he made his debut appearance in the Disney short film "The Wise Little Hen"
Read all about it ...
(To be continued)
03-20-2017, 11:51 PM #358
I'm not sure when 2way came out but the earliest add on a quick search was 1936, oh and the 7up glass pictured..I have that in my collection but believed it to be from the 40's-50's...unless it is older than I assumed?
Last edited by Canadacan; 03-20-2017 at 11:53 PM.Collecting Western Canadian sodas, and USA Orange Crush.
03-21-2017, 10:10 AM #359
Thanks for contributing.
Based on various factors, I'm leaning toward the date for the Owens-Illinois catalog as being from 1936
Here's why I say that ...
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Mickey Mouse tumbler from Catalog
Donald Duck tumbler from Catalog
This is the earliest advertisement I can find for the tumblers.
Note: The Mickey Mouse tumbler in this ad is identical to the one in the catalog, but the Donald Duck tumbler is different. I can't explain the two different Donald Duck tumblers, other than it might have been changed before it went into production. I have not been able to find a Donald Duck tumbler that is identical to the one pictured in the catalog.
The Altoona Tribune ~ Altoona, Pennsylvania ~ December 21, 1936
03-21-2017, 10:24 AM #360
This 1934 Mickey Mouse tumbler could very well be an ACL. I can't imagine any other type of application that wouldn't come off after repeated washing's. I believe its made from white milk-glass but I haven't been able to confirm that yet ...
Zanesville Signal ~ Zanesville, Ohio ~ June 21, 1934