BIG CHIEF SODA BOTTLES ~ EARLIEST & LATEST ~ EMBOSSED & ACLs

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. I forgot to mention that the same bottle as the last one I posted was used in other Illinois cities as well, but to try and figure all of that stuff out and whether certain bottles were regional, is beyond my current abilities and attention span!

 

[hemihampton]

I've been told this Big Chief Soda is a tough one. LEON.

 

[Robby Raccoon]

Looks pretty awesome!

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I've been told this Big Chief Soda is a tough one. LEON.

Leon: Please post some more of your Big Chief cans (that is if you have any, which I don't) Thanks

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

There's a Big Chief bottle currently on eBay that caught my eye. Notice the seller's description below where he says the bottle is marked with ROGT. The seller doesn't know it but the word is actually ROOT, for the Root Glass Company. Because I know Root Glass was purchased by Owens-Illinois Glass in 1932, the bottle has to date no later than 1932. Anyway, I sent the seller an inquiry asking what the two numbers were to the right of the word ROOT, which would be the date it was made.

I just heard back from him and this is his copy/pasted reply ...

"Thank you for letting me know about the Root. It is challenging reading some of these! The year is 29. When I was looking at it I noticed a circle that looks like an imperfection in the glass. I photo'd it and am attatching. It is a lovely bottle."

Original Description ...

"This bottle is so cool, it's hard to sell. Big Chief bottle in a great Coca Cola green. It has Bottle Pat'd Oct 29 1925 Min Contents 6 1/2 oz., and below that CCC Co around the bottom half of the bottle. The letters ROGT are on the very bottom edge. The bottom reads Carlsbad New Mexico."

eBay Link ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Chief-1929-Patented-Bottle-/121420437776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4538d910


This next part is a quote and link from the Bottle Makers Marks website ...

"Root Glass Company was bought by Owens-Illinois Glass Company in 1932."

http://www.glassbottlemarks.com/root-glass-company-terre-haute-indiana/


Conclusion ...

I'm not sure when the first ROOT, Big Chief bottle was produced, but because the patent date for this style of bottle is 1925, that would make the one on eBay a pretty early example. I'd consider bidding on it if it was in better shape, but I'm actually hoping to find an even earlier one, if they exist, and one in better shape than the one on eBay. ( I'm particular these days and only purchase bottles in near-mint or mint condition).

Big Chief ~ Root Glass Company ~ 1929

(I haven't checked yet, but expect the seller has posted the info and pic about Root by now that he mentioned in his reply).

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. I guess I misunderstood the seller - the picture he referred to in his reply was attached to my personal email and not with the listing, at least not yet. Anyway, he sent me three pictures and the one here is the 29 on the heel to the right of ROOT. But what's weird now is, his heading says "1929 Patent" but you can clearly see the 1925 patent date in this picture. Oh well, I better quit while I'm ahead ... 29

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Quick update thus far ... Earliest Embossed Big Chief = 1928Earliest ACL Big Chief = 1941

These dates still stand - but continuing my search for earlier examples. I suppose I should trust the ACL Book listing for the 1939 Safford, Arizona ACL bottle, but I'll put a hold on that one until further confirmation, or an even earlier acl can be found.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Safford, Arizona Big Chief ...

I just found this. Check it out.

It looks like an Owens-Illinois 1939 to me. What say you'all? Be sure and read the description, it's quite interesting. Click on the picture and follow the > for more pics

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/extremely-acl-big-chief-coca-cola-291695004

23 <(I)> 9 = Owens-Illinois ~ Plant #23/Los Angeles, Calif ~ 1939

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Quick update thus far ... Earliest Embossed Big Chief = 1928Earliest ACL Big Chief = 1941

These dates still stand - but continuing my search for earlier examples. I suppose I should trust the ACL Book listing for the 1939 Safford, Arizona ACL bottle, but I'll put a hold on that one until further confirmation, or an even earlier acl can be found.

New Update ... (Thus Far) Earliest Embossed Big Chief = 1928Earliest ACL Big Chief = 1939 I gotta get me one of those Safford bottles! []

 

[iggyworf]

I will have to agree on the 1939 date. With all that I have learned here. Great work again Bob! This thread makes me want to start collecting Big Chief's! Instant Big chief collection.http://www.ebay.com/itm/L...mp;hash=item2c8a75cf88