Delaware Punch..from Vancouver BC..who knew?

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Yeah, my grid Rumming's has a Consumer's logo on it. My orange peel one has the letters C.T.G., not sure what that stands for.My Island Bottling bottle seems to be marked 1943. Which is weird. So either I'm misinformed on when they switched dating systems from letters to boxes or somehow they used a bottle that was at least eleven years old when they started business. Or Island Bottling didn't take over from Rumming's like I was told it did. Am I right in thinking that letter-logo-number was used from 1941 until 1952 and letter-logo-box from 1953 on? My other Island bottle is dated 1960, and my Goodwill 1959. Is there any way to distinguish between decades using the box system? I know they switched to the D with a bottle in the centre in 1970 or 1971 but is there anything beyond that to tell the fifties apart from the sixties?Also, my Seven Up Vancouver bottle is dated 1949! Which means that Seven Up must have allowed franchises to compete with each other in the same cities.
 

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My two Rumming's are the same then. Which Island bottle are you refering to? the 6.5 oz or the 10oz?Dose it have box code or letter?Yes letter system was intoed 1941 and used to 1953. Progressive box introduced in 1953-.Yes a bit tricky to figure out certain dates, at worst on some bottles I'm only with in 10 yeas of knowing because of the overlapping 1941, 42, 43 with 1951, 52, 53 and so on. But only one or two bottles I have gave me trouble and I can't remember what bottles. I have a 6.5 oz Coke bottle marked box <> 0 that could mean 1960 but in fact it is 1970 and we know this because of it having 'Coke' on one side..and it being the elongated lettering .Back to your bottle, the 10oz have a design RD 1953 so it can't be before that, if it's the 6.5 squat then yes it could be..mine is dated 1953 with the box prefix.. your bottle may even be 1963? I think it's possible to also have a 1953 with the letter date code because they introduced the box in 1953 so there was probably a transition.Bottle design is one way help tell the 50's and 60's apart and don't forget about the V prefix on the mold #they ran that when they used up all the #s... started that in 1945 up to about 1957. [attachment=Island Bottling 01.jpg]
 

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Oh, yeah, it's the 6.5 oz with the letter code, should have specified that. My 10 oz. is dated 1960 with the box code. And that's interesting about the 1970, I have a 1969 with the <> logo and a 1971 with the D logo so must have switched right around 1971 then. I never knew about the V prefix, I'll have to check to see if mine has one. Also I checked my Delaware Punch from Victoria and it has the same maker's mark as your Vancouver bottle does, and otherwise looks identical to the one you found in the store.
 

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Huh ok good to know about the Delaware...thanks, well now we have to hunt for another variation!Aren't the 6.5oz Island Bottling's awesome! even if it is a generic. Still back to your Island Bottling 6.5 oz it's a real possibility that it is a 1953.....knowing it's a letter prefix it can not be a 1963, I'm pretty positive that it is 53 and here is why. I did some extensive research in the directories archives for Rumming's and the last listing for them was in 1952. then in 1953 Island bottling appears, so the time line fits for them having taken over and changing the name. So check my next post it shows two Coke bottles both 1973 same thing one has <> and the other the D....of course these are transition bottles.And just discovered this little 7oz gem!...I never knew about this bottle nor have I ever seen it before, I need this bottle! [attachment=Island Bottling 7oz-2.jpg][attachment=Island Bottling 7oz-1.jpg]
 

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Forgot to add that you mentioned the Island Bottle being old stock...is it possible sure, but not likely, you would have to check all your variations of that style of bottle to confirm...the oldest I have is one dated 1950.Check out these 1973 transistions the 6.5 FL.OZ./184ml has the <>.....and the 200ml has the newer D logoProbably just depended on what bottle plant they were made?[attachment=Coke 1973-3.jpg][attachment=Coke 1973-2.jpg][attachment=Coke 1973-1.jpg]
 

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Ooh, that's a new one for me too! I wonder what the timeline for using these was. Seems odd to have a 6.5 oz and 7 oz bottle in use at the same time. My Rumming's in that style is dated 1949. The other Island Bottling one I really want to get is the green 10 oz bottle. Don't think I've ever seen one in person but I've seen pictures. That's interesting about the transition of the Dominion logo, and also really annoying since it means it's really not very useful as a dating tool. Do you mean all the variations of the bottle with the ribbed top? Because that design goes back to the thirties at least. The closest match I can find to mine is the A. McCulloch & Son bottle from Vernon, which doesn't have a letter date code, it has 3 <> 8. That one's embossed though, not ACL. My Rumming's bottle in this style doesn't have anything on the base at all, but it's the different variation of that style with two shorter vertical lines in between the longer vertical lines.
 

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Sorry, I'm actually not sure about a green version of the 10 oz existing now, though I have a vague memory of seeing one. The one I'm sure of is a 7 oz bottle with Quality Unsurpassed on the neck. I don't remember where I got this picture from, it's not my bottle.
 

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Yes I meant the ribbed top bottles. Hey that's a cool green one!....reminds me of my green 7oz ACL Rumming's!Never seen that one either.
 

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I knew there was somthing familiar about that little 7oz green Island bottling....other than the HBC fort, and I just found it!...seems as though Rummng's passed on the 'Quality Unsurpassed' slogan to Island bottling. [attachment=Rumming 7oz-3.jpg] [attachment=Rumming 7oz-2.jpg][attachment=Rumming 7oz-1.jpg]
 

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Oh yeah, oops I thought I mentioned the similarity. Interesting that they used such similar designs as Rumming's did. I would have thought that the green ones were phased out by the time Island took over, but I guess not. And that's really interesting to see a full one, I wonder which products came in which bottles. Or if all three (not counting the 10 oz ones which were probably later) were used at the same time.
 

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