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I found this today. It appears all original. I can find a couple of references to the bar, however none of the bottles are cut. Mine appears older than others I see. From photos, this area was the Wild West during this time period. Is it a rare flask?

(I'll post a pic in a minute. The bottle is brown glass, two-piece mold, and has a lot of straw marks on the neck.)
 

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Check it with a loop to see if the sickness goes into the lettering. People have been known to make a stencil and use a sandblaster to fake that look.
 

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Hate to say it, but it's as fake/modern as the day is long. They didn't have computer driven plotters to cut stencils back then. A couple of those fonts weren't designed until the 1970s or 1980s.
 

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Seems like a lot of time and effort to make a fake then sell it for $5. Block font wasn't created until recently? I've seen ABP glass wayyyy nicer cut than this (without stencils).
 

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There are tens of thousands of sans serif (block) fonts out there with differences so subtle that only a letterhead would notice. Trust me, those aren't old fonts, and they were cut with a computer driven plotter. The copy in the middle is a serif font and there are tens of thousands of different ones of them out there too. If you ever look at an old silk screened sign very closely, you'll be able to see the differences in letters of the same character like two "A"s cut by hand no matter how good they were. I did notice the center of the "A" in "HARM'S" is off, but that's only because the center came out when the forger was weeding the stencil and he/she stuck it back crooked, to be expected by a crook, huh? If you're out only 5 bucks, then it's almost worth the lesson. I'm just sorry you got stuck for even that much.
 

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You could still try a loop, I was trying to be polite, diplomatic, empathetic or something but I do agree with Jimbo. It just doesn't sit well with me.I also hope you weren't hit hard but it's easy to get fooled and your not alone, I've been there too.If you had stated you just dug it in a 8 foot privy, I'd be eating my words. Found is open to interpretation though.
 

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mr2real said:
Seems like a lot of time and effort to make a fake then sell it for $5.
It could have been bought and sold 10+ times in the 30 or so years. The original maker could have sold it for hundreds of dollars. Who knows?
 

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sunrunner said:
they should have used roman .

No, they should have refrained from trying to rip somebody off in the first place.
 

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