How much would you pay for this rogh olive green BIM?

[haide]

Hi,seems price is not a sensitive topic here，so I’m asking directly,pardon me if it's not that appropriate.
The bottle is probably Chinese，made before 1900 as the seller says.
Glass bottle price system is usually in chaos here，so please give me some references，Thank you.

 

[sunrunner]

tiger win sell's here form six to eight bucks.

 

[haide]

So it is really necessary to do some homework because this one here is asked for more than $100.:boom:

 

[botlguy]

Sunrunner, are you thinking of the earthenware type? I've never seen one of these glass ones, at least in the same form as the earthenware Tiger Wines. I think this one should be more but $100 seems considerably high.
Jim

 

[cannibalfromhannibal]

I agree with Jim, though I vaguely recall a clear glass one with Federal Law Forbids in the glass. This one looks suspicious to me as the base looks like they tried to add a pontil scar and the seams don't look quite correct. Might be an early reproduction or a modern-ish import. Very common in clay and designers flip over them for decorating and might explain a reason to make newer ones.....but then there looks to be honest looking iridescence, so I would limit my spending to 10-20 bucks without holding it for closer examination. It is an oddity if old and a conversation piece if not. HTH Jack

 

[botlguy]

Jack, I believe he is in China which means to me, all bets are off. As you say, it could be anything from anywhere, new or very old.
Jim

 

[cowseatmaize]

Very old is out IMO, there would be no need to make a mold for a simple globe with a foot and then make it so poorly. I'd go with mid 20th century deception/decorator ware myself.

 

[RJ2]

Yup, cowseatmaize, I'm with you.

Besides, bubbles don't look right and high point base wear is minimal if not non existent.

 

[haide]

Hello everyone，yes，I'm in China，and this piece is in a quite ancient porcelain type named “Yu Hu Chun” comparing to your“Tiger Wine”.

I consider it as an unqualified piece with the twisted base instead of an attemption to make a pontil scar，because “pontil scar”is never a key word in China，and I don't even think there is a Chinese word for it,which could be an explanation of it's so hard to find any antique Chinese glass bottle with an even suspicious pontil scar on the base，not even on the obvious fake pieces.

So,I searched “Yu Hu Chun”later and luckily found another one，but a sold one unfortunately，otherwise I’d take it because I love this piece so much，besides，there isn't a suspicious seem problem as you suspect on the last one.

Is this one right?please check the pictures and give your opinions，thank you.

 

[CanadianBottles]

I think it's quite unlikely that either one of them is a modern reproduction per se, because they both look to be made in a similar way to a lot of the Chinese beer bottles I saw in B.C. That said, some of the Chinese beers I saw in B.C. were very, very crude and all sorts of fantastic colours - but they had crown tops. So they couldn't have been that old, and probably dated to the 1920's or so. The second one looks older than the first, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'd place both of them at early-mid 20th century, though probably legitimate whiskeys rather than fakes for decor.

If I was you, I wouldn't pay more than twenty dollars for anything until you have a good idea of what's out there where you live. I made a lot of dubious purchases when I was just starting collecting, and almost all of them I wouldn't make now. I'd bet that there are quite a lot of these glass tiger whiskeys out there if you know where to look.

Another thing to think of is that bottle digging probably never caught on in China like it did in North America, so there's very likely all sorts of bottles still out there in the countryside waiting to be found. Though I don't know what sort of laws China has on digging up old sites so you'd have to be careful with that.