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I’ve spent much time trying to I.D. This old stoneware beer bottle without any luck . Whatzit?

Wildcat wrangler

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I got this bottle in a box of bottles from an estate sale and really don’t know much about stoneware bottles except this is old? When I first got it, it was very black and greasy. This is what I found after washing the gunk off it. I still am not finding any in this dark color. Any ideas? I’d love to know the age. (Judging by the weight of it, it could double as home defense!). Thank you for your help... you people are awesome!






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Wildcat wrangler

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I got this bottle in a box of bottles from an estate sale and really don’t know much about stoneware bottles except this is old? When I first got it, it was very black and greasy. This is what I found after washing the gunk off it. I still am not finding any in this dark color. Any ideas? I’d love to know the age. (Judging by the weight of it, it could double as home defense!). Thank you for your help... you people are awesome!






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I was wondering... since everything had price stickers from an antique shop in Santa Cruz on it, if the person had coated it in shoe polish to make it black? For whatever reason I’m not sure... there are all kinds of mysteries in those boxes! Along with some bottles that make my 35 yr collection look like what I’ve been weeding out for much of that time. There are also bottles I believe to be fakes.... check it out- I’ve never seen a Jack

Daniels label like this on an amber bottle:


I did find it on a clear bottle, but something about it doesn’t feel right. The oil bottle makes sense , now that I think about it. And your right, beer doesn’t fit... would spill all over. Thank you much for your help. I still have 4 boxes of this stuff to sort out, but it’s been a fun education! I finally figured ou hat this is only a bank and not some part to a machine. There is a Canadian 1941 Nickel in it...

It looks important, anyway!


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Joelbest

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Jan 20, 2021
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Hamilton Ontario Canada
I got this bottle in a box of bottles from an estate sale and really don’t know much about stoneware bottles except this is old? When I first got it, it was very black and greasy. This is what I found after washing the gunk off it. I still am not finding any in this dark color. Any ideas? I’d love to know the age. (Judging by the weight of it, it could double as home defense!). Thank you for your help... you people are awesome!






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Wildcat wrangler

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From what I could find it’s a Sake bottle from Japan. As I suspected, this is VERY old. I through initially 1700s but it seems it could be from from the 1600s and additionally the 1700s.
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thank you... that would be awesome. I wonder if it was with this weird brass oriental vase that came in this box of stuff, it was with... I can’t ID this one either, but that would make more sense.



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willong

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Nice job TxBottleDigger! Looks like you nailed it!

I was thinking "Tiger Wine" or "Tiger Whiskey" when I first saw the photo. I've heard both names applied to stoneware jugs that look like this:
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But all examples I've seen had the squatter profile as in the photo I've attached. Looks like Wildcat Wrangler has a predecessor design. I'm guessing that the squat examples, which were quite common in late 19th century Japanese communities in the Pacific northwest, evolved to be less prone to tipping over on shelf or tabletop.
 

Wildcat wrangler

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Wow, that is close.... just trying to look this up is difficult... just precious not much, out there like this. I’m wondering, still.. what was with the nasty greasy coating... time and dirt, because it was thick. I thought it was a black bottle at first. Really nice job, Tex... now what do I do next, other than lock it away from my hairy spotted hoard of cats? Should I try and find someone for info and appraisal who’s area of expertise in antiques is Japanese or just keep researching it, (or all of that!) and I have no idea where to find someone who specializes in such things.... you guys are amazing, really.


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