Modern German half-post bottles

[kungfufighter]

As per some recent discussions on the forum...

http://www.bottlebooks.com/germanhalfpost/german_half_post.htm

 

[surfaceone]

Hey Jeff,

Good catch. That young lady who posted hers here isn't gonna want to hear about this... https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/German-Half-post-bottle%3F/m-279793/tm.htm

 

[CanYaDigIt]

I'm pretty sure this is the one being sold by a big auction company. Ouch!

hmm......that's not right. Hold on one sec.


Well, the link wont work. Search American Bottle Auctions previous auctions for Half Post. Top of the page.

Here's the link for them
http://www.americanbottle.com/past-auctions.php

 

[kungfufighter]

To Jeff Wichmann's credit (he is the principal at American Bottle Auctions) it was he who sent me and others the link to Digger's article. That's a stand up move for sure.

 

[GuntherHess]

Just reinforces what we already figured, its not old.
Doesnt answer the question of where they are coming from.

As far as big auctions go...if you dont know what you are bidding on , dont bid on it. Dont take thier word for it , they arent working for you , they are working for the seller.

also,
I dont consider base wear the definative attribute for dating a bottle. It is just one charactoristic to take into account. It is certainly possible to have an 18th century piece of glass with little or no base wear.

 

[CanYaDigIt]

I agree Jeff (kungfufighter). I've met Jeff Wichmann several times, and he is a very stand up guy. I'm sure he would never intentionally misrepresent an item he was selling. Number one, that would be detrimental to his business, number two, he just wouldn't do it. He sells some of the best bottles known. Why misrepresent a $250 bottle? He even GAVE me one of his western bitters books in Auburn, and signed it. That's a $100+ book, for free. That's a stand up guy if I've ever met one.

 

[kungfufighter]

Couldn't agree with you more about the base wear issue Matt. It is but one of the multitude of clues that help determine age.

I do understand that the article does not break new ground but I thought it might be important to remind folks that there is overwhelming evidence supporting the notion that these bottles are of modern manufacture.

 

[GuntherHess]

I'm not saying the auction companies purposely misrepresent items, I'm saying its the buyer's responsibility to know what they are paying money for. Its the sellers' responsibility to describe the items as accurately as possible and run an honest auction. In many cases they know very little about the bottles they are selling. The variety of glass out there is huge and no one can be an expert on it all.

Bottom line is , if you dont know what you are bidding on , you shouldnt be bidding (unless you are that lucky son of a gun who just won the $300 million state lottery .

 

[GuntherHess]

I do understand that the article does not break new ground but I thought it might be important to remind folks that there is overwhelming evidence supporting the notion that these bottles are of modern manufacture.

Its always good to get out the word on stuff like that. Less people will get burned.
I salute him for the effort.

 

[adshepard]

ORIGINAL: GuntherHess


also,
I dont consider base wear the definative attribute for dating a bottle. It is just one charactoristic to take into account. It is certainly possible to have an 18th century piece of glass with little or no base wear.

Especially those we find underwater. Most every bottle I have picked up diving has absolutely no base wear. In fact those I find underwater are more likely to have side wear more than anything else.

Alan