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The weather here has not been cooperative to taking clear outdoor photos of bottles the last couple days. Heavy tropical rain has been falling off and on, several inches overnight. I did catch a break this morning and went out to photo the other Dai Nippon bottle.

First for Hemihampton - I found my first ever WW2 beer can! It was in better shape than I expected:

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I found it tucked away under a large rock. This is what happens to something made out of metal (steel) after being left in a tropical jungle for 70 years with 90 degree heat and 90 percent humidity 24/7/365. Sorry 'bout that - I really doubt I will find any beer cans unless they were kept in someone's home as a collection.

Here is the newer Dai Nippon bottle (1945-49 era):

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You see the circle embossing just below the neck? That and the shape tell me right away that this is a Dai Nippon Brewery bottle. The circle (often with a dot in the center) signifies the sun and is a trademark logo.

Here is the base:

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You can see the diamond "N" - the other marks are probably mold marks. I will try to get photos of the older wartime Dai Nippon beer bottles I have in my collection. There are big variations in embossing but the bottle shape remained the same.

FYI I think Nippon Glass Works is a separate company from Dai Nippon. I think the beer manufacturer made their own beer bottles until the end of WW2, then the company was broken up - anti trust type laws - while under US occupation.

While out and about, some more stuff I stumbled across:

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This is a large Japanese WW2 sake bottle. They are somewhat rare, but I find them from time to time. These are large - perhaps 16 inches tall and 7 inches in diameter. This is as I found it - even after 70 years. The jungle floor is all limestone rock and there is only a couple inches of dirt and leaf matter so nothing gets buried and it all sits as it was dropped.

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This is the frame from a broken B-29 bomber blister window. Found near the WW2 bomber base Northwest Field.

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UXO - relatively common on Guam. This is either an artillery or naval shell that failed to explode. I laid the pen down for scale. Obviously I never touch UXO - theoretically it is still live and could explode but the reality is that I could probably throw it onto a concrete floor and it would only break into pieces.
 

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I hope you saved that P.O.S. cracked in half beer can for me. I can still see the olive drab green paint on it. Trust me, I know I can fix that evan as bad as it is. Plus I'm extremely curious what brand it could be? LEON.
 

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I didn't grab it but will the next time I'm out. It is incredibly fragile - there definitely was no OD paint left on it - I think the photo is misleading. I'll poke around more the next time I'm there also to see if I can find more.
 

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Here are two photos of some of the older WW2 era Dai Nippon bottles I have n my collection. These are relatively common - I've probably come across a couple hundred but most are on military property where you can get in trouble for removing artifacts. These I found off base in public areas.

I went with a slightly larger resize for these images...

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Yes - they all have a standard size and shape but come in all sorts of shades of color. The green ones are very rare. The embossing is the same - I just tried to rotate the bottles so you can see different sides.

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This is the base embossing common to all Dai Nippon bottles of this size and shape from WW2 and earlier. Dai Nippon makes a smaller size beer bottle of clear and green glass that has Kanji (Japanese script) embossing but these are much less common.

I have theorized and seen enough to be fairly confident that the number to the left of the star is the year of manufacture. The two left ones in the photo are 16 and the one on the right is 18. This is not 1916 and 1918 - it's the year of the Showa period:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/year.htm

so 16 = 1941 and 18 = 1943.

I have a bunch of coke bottles to clean and photograph before I can get this thread back on topic with some more coke bottle photos of unusual mold/MFR marks...

-Dave
 

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Gotta be lot more beer cans, They just hide good. Sure wish I could be there to find some. I'd about kill for the chance. Here some Pics of cans I've fixed. LEON.

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After fixing

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After adding new seam to fill hole & cleaning in acid. I can fix extremely rusty dented cans. You don't find to many Olive Drab cans here in USA because most got exported over seas. THANKS, LEON.

Sorry, trying not to hijack post

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Pic of only top half of rusty can dipped in acid. Was 100% totally unreadable & 100% rust. For experiment to show the wonders of acid I only dipped half the can to show before & after. Now half readable. IGA lemon lime sode. LEON.

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ORIGINAL: daven2nl

I didn't grab it but will the next time I'm out. It is incredibly fragile - there definitely was no OD paint left on it - I think the photo is misleading. I'll poke around more the next time I'm there also to see if I can find more.


I could of been seeing green moss growing on it? LEON.
 

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