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No clue what this is

DouglasFresh1980

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Jun 19, 2016
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Any help with this would be much appreciated. I really love the symbols on the bottom. I think it might be a horseshoe and maybe a skull but I’m not sure. I hope this is pre1900. Thanks again for all you guys do on here, I love this forum.

 

CanadianBottles

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I think it's a pickle bottle, likely from Europe. Never seen one quite like that but the shape is typical for pickle bottles. The monogram is CM I think.
 

DouglasFresh1980

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Jun 19, 2016
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I think it's a pickle bottle, likely from Europe. Never seen one quite like that but the shape is typical for pickle bottles. The monogram is CM I think.
Maybe I was holding it upside down eh? It looks like horseshoes to me dammit lol. I think you are right about it being a pickle jar.
 

CanadianBottles

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Yeah I agree it does look like a horseshoe! It's a very typical font for the time period. The M is a lot less typical, and I'm still not 100% certain that's what it is but it looks more like an M than anything else I can think of.
 

DouglasFresh1980

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Jun 19, 2016
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Yeah I agree it does look like a horseshoe! It's a very typical font for the time period. The M is a lot less typical, and I'm still not 100% certain that's what it is but it looks more like an M than anything else I can think of.
You mentioned time period...do you have a ballpark guess right now? I’ve been doing some research but no luck yet.
 

shotdwn

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I agree with CanadianBottles on probable use of the bottle but the monogram looks to read CHM to me. As for time period I would guess it is sometime around 1900.
 

Harry Pristis

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Jul 24, 2003
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I am pleased to see the monogram (it is of a French exporter which I have seen on other French bottles). I have a similar bottle with a pontil scar instead of the monogram. It dates to the last quarter of the 19th Century (The French used a disk pontil much longer than American bottle-makers). A variety of French bottles were imported here containing condiments -- pickles, olives, and particularly capers.

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DouglasFresh1980

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Jun 19, 2016
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Wow. Thank you so much Harry. I have done a lot of researching and I can’t find anything. Do you have any sources/websites you can share so I can look further. Do you know the name of the company? Thanks so much, you’ve made my night.
 

Harry Pristis

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Yes, I do know something of the company. The monogram is "A G M". I'm not certain about the "M" part. They stand for "Alfred Gounelle [Marseilles]". He patented (in France) a number of food containers, operating from as early as the 1860s to the late 1890s.

See page 163 in Zumwalt's KETCHUP PICKLES SAUCES.
 

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