Trying to Identify Glass Manufacturer on Old 7 oz Paper Label 7UP Bottle

[rskmgtpro]

Thanks everyone for all your help on this bottle! Sounds like it is a fake knock off reproduction. Oh well, it still makes an interesting conversation piece even if it isn't a collectible. I'm surprised anyone would go thru all the trouble to "fake" this. As I recall I picked this bottle up a few years ago at an antique/second hand store for five dollars so not really out anything. Was just hoping it might be the real deal. Learned a lot in the process though.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

rskmgtpro ~

Another interesting/odd aspect to your bottle is that its a 1964 non-acl. So it probably did have a paper label originally. But whether it was a beer or soda bottle is hard to say. I think the answer rest on being able to identifying the SV/VS

SPB

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's a 1964 Saratoga Vichy (SV) soda bottle with a paper label. It doesn't say which glass company made it, but it could be the one if it was also available in smaller sizes like a 7-ounce. The SV emblem on the label looks identical.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/91863074/1964-celebrated-saratoga-vichy-water

 

[M.C.Glass]

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

ORIGINAL: MCglass

Ya think they used those labels after 1940 even? 8 bubbles and ACLs in full swing -

MCglass ~

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Could you please clarify. My guess is the bottle you posed is a 1936.

Thanks

SPB

Well, epackage had said that they stopped using these labels in 1950.
It seemed to me that if 7 Up was using paper labels at all during the '40s, they wouldn't have been the 1935 copyright "Lithiated" labels with 8 bubbles.
Actually the Wiki article he later posted said 7 Up contained mood-stabilizing Lithium Citrate until 1950.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Base ... Same as on label above.

 

[epackage]

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

Here's a 1964 Saratoga Vichy (SV) soda bottle with a paper label. It doesn't say which glass company made it, but it could be the one if it was also available in smaller sizes like a 7-ounce. The SV emblem on the label looks identical.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/91863074/1964-celebrated-saratoga-vichy-water

Great find Bob...

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Jim ~

Thanks.

Here's a 12 ounce. I bet there is a 6 or 7 ounce out there somewhere. In the description where the seller says there is a large SA on the base could be a misinterpretation. If you invert the label the V "sort of" looks like an A

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAPER-LABEL-BOTTLE-CROWN-TOP-SARATOGA-VICHY-WATER-SARATOGA-SPRINGS-NEW-YORK-/150910592511

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Here's how the base looks if you invert it. Please don't tell anybody I said this, but the eBay seller is a dummy when it comes to soda bottles. Does that look like an SA to you? It don't to me! Especially when you take into account that the seller had the label to look at as a sure-fire clue

SPB

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I haven't found a 6 or 7 ounce Saratoga Vichy bottle yet, but I did find this bottle cap to make the picture complete.

"What we have here is a failure to communicate" (Cool Hand Luke). Err, what I really mean is, "a failure on someone's part to try and fool members of Antique-Bottles.Net into thinking that a 1930s 7up paper label belongs on a 1964 Saratoga Vichy bottle." Shame on them!

SPB

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SARATOGA-VICHY-NEW-YORK-SODA-CORK-LINED-SODA-CAP-CROWN-/160936699282?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D13904%26meid%3D4616908910596246573%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1095%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D160721274786%26&nma=true&si=NxypqzI%252BB6353iA0jiAivc6gb00%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

PS ~

Not to mention that the paper label is a fake, too. How dare they? (Lol) [sm=lol.gif]