The first one is interesting.Large bold type with the improved lid.The glass insert you have is from a Gem jar not that one.The second one I think is common maybe $10.00 the first one with the right lid would be a little more.Thanks Clinton
Hi cowseatmaise - Be careful with the Toulouse book, there are a lot of errors within it. Because we have learned so much more since that book was published (especially about Ball jars) it can be quite confusing.
If you want the very best reference book ever published on jars, try to get your hands on a copy of The Standard Fruit Jar Reference, by Dick Roller. It is pretty old right now too, (1983 I think) but the research is much more thorough in it. Limited printing and very hard to find, but worth every penny if you can get hold of one.
I appreciate all the comments and info, I Bought out an old antique dealers stock of bottles and jars, over 4,000, the place had been closed for 30 years or so and I dont think it's been picked over too hard. I am trying to educate myself in a hurry! I just got the Redbook #9 and am looking for Dick Rollers book....BIG BUCKS!
I hope I can at least get my money back.
Thanks again to all.