EARLIEST ACL SODA BOTTLE(S) ?

[madman]

corey very nice!

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

morbious_fod and Dragon0421

Thanks for your contributions. The following "snippet" is from my ACL book and may be of interest to you as well as others. It was written by Cecil Munsey as part of the introduction to the book. The part where he writes "The thousands of individual designs ..." highlights what morbious_fod was saying about how no one book can cover every ACL bottle ever made. Correct me if I am mistaken, but I seem to recall reading somewhere there are like 10,000+ different ACL bottles. That's just one of the many reasons I enjoy Antique-Bottles.net so much. If you can't find it here, you likely won't find it anywhere.

And for Dragon0421, I thought you in particular would enjoy the part where Cecil writes, ... "airplanes, whales, and trains." I wonder if Mr. Muncey was referring to your "Big Cola" with the image of a whale on it? (By the way, your "Big Cola" bottle fully qualifies for this thread if you wish to post it).

Thanks again to all ... and please keep the photos coming. Before you know it we'll have enough stuff to publish our own book. We'll title it ... "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Early Applied Color Label Soda Bottles But Were Afraid To Ask." Nah, that's too long! But I think you get the "picture."

SPB

 

[bottlingco]

Here are a couple of submissions:

Winner Beverages, Kaufman, TX 1936
Blakes Better Club Soda, Ada, OK 1938

Notice how often the bottles with white ACL's before 1940 tend to be more gray than white? It seems that this is often the case, even with bottles that are in pristine condition. After 1940, the white is more strong and brilliant.

Great postings! Keep it up.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

bottlingco ~

BINGO! Two more that aren't in "The Book."

Thanks for the contribution. If I didn't say this already, "We're really making progress now!" Your 1936 "Winner" bottle fits right in with the earliest of the earliest. Great bottle! Great pics!

I just did a "quick?" search through 4,130 old soda-pop magazine ads, and of the "oldest" ACLs shown was this "Royal Crown" from 1937, (Look close and you will see the date), which confirms the date on morbious_fod's RC bottle he posted earlier. Plus, (See my next post) for a 1937 "Hires" ad.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

And here's the 1937 "Hires" ad. (See date). I was surprised about the Hires ACL as being this old, and I may have this one too. If I'd get off the computer and dust off some of those back row bottles, I just might come up with something!

Thanks again,

SPB

 

[bottlingco]

While we are on the subject of dating bottles, double check the Brownie Club bottle. It is my understanding that Owens-Illinois in 1945 and 1946 used two different methods before standardizing the method in 1947 of distinguishing between a 1930's bottle and a 1940's bottle. If there is a single digit date and there is no dot after it or there is a dot before it, then it is a 1930's bottle. If there is a single digit date with a dot after the digit it is a 1940's bottle. Therefore a date code of 6 is a 1936 and a date code of 6. or 46. is a 1946. Others please, if you have knowledge about this, add it. In 1947, Owens-Illinois went to the double digit code on all of their bottles to lessen the confusion.

Keep up the great postings! I am enjoying them. bottlingco

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I took the liberty of "borrowing" morb's RC image for comparison. That way we don't have to click back to page one to see it.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

bottlingco ~

I'm curious about the "Brownie Club" too. But you may recall the image I posted was from my ACL book, and not one that I (and probably not too many other collectors), own for examination. But it's a great idea, and hopefully someone out there has one to check out the "dot" reference you mentioned. The reason I posted it was because it was the oldest ACL in the book. But I'm learning now there are others from this time period (apparently lots of 'em) that I never heard of.

Thanks,

SPB

 

[bottlingco]

SODAPOPBOB:
I'm like you in that I don't have the Brownie Club bottle to check out. I see it a lot of the time, and it seems to me that it is a 1945, but my memory is not always as good as it used to be. Also, the bright white ACL on it appears to be a 40's bottle. I can almost recognize a 30's bottle setting on a shelf just by the "dull looking grayish" white ACL. But, again, I definitely could be mistaken.

Others out there, let's see some of your oldest bottles. This is fun! Also, if you have a Brownie Club bottle, feel free to post a picture of the bottom, or tell us the date code on yours. bottlingco

 

[carling]

SODAPOPBOB,

The Hires bottle in the ad is a foil label, not an acl.

Nice thread you started, I'll try to ad to it later.

Rick