COCA COLA / 1915 PROTOTYPE / EARL R DEAN / RAY A GRAHAM

[SODAPOPBOB]

I'm obviously not an authority on the subject, but because I support Gary in every way and would like to hear more from him, I did some extensive reading on the topic and came up with the following ...

1. If an official claim was submitted in 1916 stating the bottle had been stolen, then whoever submitted that claim might have a right to the bottle today.

However ...

2. If no offical claim was filed in 1916 then the law defines it as no theft having occurred.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Somewhat similar situation / Interesting reading ...

Children Under A Palm Tree / Winslow Homer Painting / Theft or Throw Away?

http://nell-rose.hubpages.com/hub/Children-under-a-Palm-Tree-Fake-or-Fortune-A-Mothers-Quest

"There was no burglary, as the Blakes stated in the first place. So surely the law just has to decide whether if you throw something away, have you a claim to it now?"

Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_Under_a_Palm

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Back to another aspect of this topic ...

Because we only skimmed the surface on this earlier I would like to revisit it now with a little more focus ...

Is it possible the Graham Glass Company had more than one entry in the 1916 contest? Notice the patent date(s) on the bottle pictured here and the two that follow. They are exactly the same! The only difference being, one was patented by Ray Graham and two were patented by Robert Graham. Is it simply that the Graham brothers designed three bottles at the same time for no particular reason or ...

1. Because they had more than one entry in the contest?

Or ...

2. Because they designed three bottles for the contest but only entered one of them?

Ray A Graham / Bottle Patent Number 49,924
Filed June 30, 1916
Patented October 3, 1916

http://www.google.com/patents/USD49924?pg=PA2&dq=Graham+bottle+49,924&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ESyBUYGrN8yoqQGD9YGoBg&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Graham%20bottle%2049%2C924&f=false

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Robert C. Graham / Bottle Patent Number 49,729
Filed June 30, 1916
Patented October 3, 1916

http://www.google.com/patents/USD49729?pg=PA1&dq=R+C+Graham+bottle+49,729&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MimBUeDPDYKNqgGiwIDQAg&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=R%20C%20Graham%20bottle%2049%2C729&f=false

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Robert C. Graham / Bottle Patent Number 49,730
Filed June 30, 1916
Patented October 3, 1916

http://www.google.com/patents/USD49730?pg=PA2&dq=Graham+bottle+49,730&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eCuBUZX8JY_xqQGFmICQBA&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Graham%20bottle%2049%2C730&f=false

 

[tftfan]

Dont let the HECKLERS get ya down ! That bottle is SWEEEET !

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. ~

While contemplating your answer to my questions above, please show me where the contest rules state ...

"Only one entry per manufacturer"

Gracias'

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Correction ...

The Ray Graham filing date is the same as his brother Robert's two bottles, which was June 30, 1916, but for some reason Ray's bottle received a later patent date of November 21, 1916.

However, even with this clarified, my questions still remain.

Bob

 

[epackage]

I'm going to say that all three bottles were designed with the thought in mind they could/would be entered in the contest, I say this because they all meet the criteria mentioned about Coke wanting the bottles to stand out by feel alone when sticking ones hand into a ice filled cooler. Whether or not they were all in the contest, I have no input, and unless one surfaces the way Gary's did I doubt we will ever know, unless someone from Coke can tell you...

 

[digdug]

A friend showed me this bottle years ago. I think it was one of the contest bottles too, but was the loser. We all know the contour from ROOT won.
This bottle has arrows on the neck area, panels, much like the soda water bottles used by Coca-Cola bottlers, marked: ATLANTA, GA on the bottom. And no makers mark. I have seen two in the past 6 years. Both damaged in much the same way. It looks as if someone knocked off the neck on purpose.
Maybe this is what happened to the 'Losers' of the contest!
See the next page for more of this bottle.