EARLIEST ACL SODA BOTTLE(S) ?

[morbious_fod]

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[morbious_fod]

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

madman ~

Since the base of your "Fruit Bowl Soda" has the makers mark plus the mysterious 1937, but no actual date like a ... 5 < symbol > 7 (which indicates 1957 on the "Fruit Bowl" bottle I have in my collection) then I'll bet you a root beer there is a letter on the thickest part of the lip.

Hold on there George. What is this symbol you are referring to between the 5&7 on your bottle? Unless it is LGW then this isn't necessarily a 1957 bottle. If it's the I inside an O or the diamond/O symbol for Owens Illinois, the number on the left is the code for the glass factory it was produced at, and the one on the right is the date, or part of the date. On some of the 1950's I inside O bottles they did shorten down the date to one number and you may very sell have a 1957. A quick check it to see if it has a retangular protruding nub near the bottom of the bottle or an indented circle or slot. The nub is usually found on late 1930's acls and 1940's. They switched to the indented slots in the 1950's.

Nub

 

[morbious_fod]

Indented hole.

I'm pretty sure these were used to hold the bottle in place so that they could apply the multi layer acls properly.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

morbious_fod ~

Thanks for coming to our rescue again. This proves what I was saying about you having a magnifying glass. I've always said, if Morb doesn't know, nobody does.

The drawing below is the bottom of my "Fruit Bowl Soda" bottle. I couldn't find the makers mark in my files. At first I thought it was double-stamped, but the more I looked at it, the more it looks like a G over a C. ??? And the bottle does not have either of the nub/indent holes. Below the 5384, I'm not sure if that is a 1 an L or what it is.

Thanks,

SODAPOPGEORGE

 

[morbious_fod]

[font="sans-serif, arial, helvetica, geneva"]"G C (entertwined angularly designed letters, vertically arranged)..........Glass Containers, Inc. (1933-1983),later Glass Containers Corporation, main office in Fullerton, CA, with several glass plant locations. Bought up the Knox Glass Company plants in 1968. This particular mark is stated to have first been used in 1945 according to Toulouse, but may in fact date from somewhat earlier. Peterson (1968:49) indicates at least one variation of the GC trademark was used beginning in 1933. Several variations of the "G C" mark exist, including one with the letters rounded (not angular), and another one with the letters touching, or nearly so."

http://www.myinsulators.com/glass-factories/bottlemarks2.html

Well I found the glass company but no real information on dating the bottle. Maybe with this information you might be able to find something online to help you with dating this particular bottle.
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[SODAPOPBOB]

Like I said ... You're the morb, er ... I mean "man!"

Thanks. I intend to do some additional research, but your valuable input will suffice for the time being. As far as I'm concerned, the real focus here pertains to madman's Fruit Bowl bottle. And whether or not it has a letter on the lip. Plus I'm still wondering about that mysterious 1937, which we already know is not a date.

Your bottle marks link didn't take, so I have taken the liberty of posting it again.

Thanks,

SPBOB

http://www.myinsulators.com/glass-factories/bottlemarks2.html

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

This is an update on the "THREE EARLIEST KNOWN" ( and confirmed) ACLs. (So far).

Note: A "HUGE THANK YOU" goes out to all who have contributed to and viewed this thread.

This first one is a 1936 "Winners" contributed by ... bottlingco

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Next is this 1936 "Was-Cott" contributed by ... morbious_fod

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

And the granddaddy, and earliest of them all is this 1935 7up contributed by ... wonkapete

Thanks again,

SPB

 

[madman]

hey bob you were right ! i found it the letter x 1952 you could barely see it, thanks again for the great info!----- mike