F. H. Heckings Question?

[Big Ralph]

Hi All,
I haven't been on thus site for a while now. I am still trying to find some info on the above bottle that I have. I tried once before but couldn't find out much about it. Super nice bottle in deep emerald green and in mint condition. Has anyone seen one being sold in the last last year or so? It's a F. H. Hecking's, Mineral Water, New York.

Thanks,
Big Ralph

 

[epackage]

Hi Ralph, until today I had never heard of one. I did find this article of a dig in my neck of the woods though, no value given....Jim
Best of luck

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:egZiccSWQLgJ:www.glswrk-auction.com/contest06-1.htm+%22hecking's+mineral%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

 

[cowseatmaize]

I saw this, maybe it's related and someone can trace the addresses.
New York NY Sun 1857

 

[Big Ralph]

Thanks guys for the imput on the heckings bottle but is that it??? With all the knowledge on this site----THAT'S IT?? I would have thought a lot more information would be forthcoming. Hasn't anybody ever seen one of these before? I did run into an artical where a guy dug one. There has to be more then two of them out there. I mean, I am just an old dummy but you gentlemen are the cream of the crop. Hello----Hello---anybody out there??

Big Ralph

 

[andy g]

Well, at least you got some answers compared to my original post when we dug the bottle back in 2003: https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-1879/mpage-1/key-hecking/tm.htm#1879. I did eventually show the bottle to a collector or two at the Baltimore Show -- got positive responses but not much information. Also, there is some historic pamphlet by F.H. Hecking listed somewhere in Germany -- never got a copy before it evaporated from Google. And the bottle is listed in Donald Tucker's mineral water book. Not much more than that ... but it does look good in the window. Enjoy.

 

[surfaceone]

Thanks guys for the imput on the heckings bottle but is that it??? With all the knowledge on this site----THAT'S IT?? I would have thought a lot more information would be forthcoming.

Hey Big Ralph,

Welcome to the Forums. Here's hoping you will put up some good photographs.

I'm pleased whenever I can find a single nugget of information on a bottle. Tod has it listed but doesn't have a photo, Over Here.

Frederick H. Hecking is listed in the 1872 Trow's Directory:"Hecking, Frederick H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h N. J."

He's listed in the 1877 Gouldings Directory: "Hecking, Fred'k H. oils, 3 New Bowery, h Hoboken"

His booklet to which Andy referred is in the Boston Athenaeum:

"Hecking. Frederick II. Directions for the use of [his] artificial mineral waters. N. Y.. 1863. 12". (D 38)" From.

Also, Here.

That's all of the nuggets I found so far. Please do show us some good photos. How'd you come upon this bottle?

 

[surfaceone]

hello Andy,

Is it listed in this one?

"Apuzzo, Robert. 1994. Bottles of Old New York: A Pictorial Guide to Early New York City Bottles, 1680-1925. R & L Publishing, New York. This book is primarily a picture guide to an assortment (~150) of largely embossed bottles from New York City and vicinity (e.g. Staten Island) dominated by primarily aqua/colorless soda, beer and some druggist bottles. There is some interesting general historical information although little specific to the illustrated bottles." From.

 

[andy g]

I do not recall it in the Apuzzo book. The Apuzzo book by the author's own admission is not fully exhaustive and tends to primarily focus on bottles from the 1880s to 1910s. Also, did not realize it is listed in Soda & Beer Bottles of North America -- thanks -- and as Tod's website notes, the bottle is listed in Tucker's book.

 

[Sodasandbeers]

I found the following (note mineral water refrences 1859-1865):

Ney York City Directories
1854 HECKLING F. H. com. mer. 123 Liberty, h. Brooklyn (325)
1855 Hecking F. H. com. mer. 123 Liberty, h. Brooklyn (335)
1856 Hecking Frederick H. imp. 12 Frankfort
1857 HECKING FREDERICK H. imp. 294 Eighth av. & 12 Frankfort, h 191 Washington, Hoboken
1858 HECKING FREDERICK H. imp. 370 Pearl & 294 Eighth av. h 190 Wash'n, Hoboken
1858 Mineral Water. Not listed
1859 Hecking Frederick H. oils, 370 Pearl, h Hoboken
1859 Mineral Water. Hecking Frederick H. 370 Pearl
1860 Hecking Frederick A. imp. 370 Pearl, h 189 Wash'n, Hoboken
1860 Mineral Water. Hecking Frederick H. 370 Pearl
1861 Hecking Frederick A. imp. 370 Pearl, h 189 Wash'n, Hoboken
1862 HECKING FREDERICK H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h Wash'n, Hoboken
1863 HECKING FREDERICK H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h 222 Bloomfield, Hoboken
1864 Hecking Frederick H. soda, 370 Pearl
1865 HECKING FREDERICK H. extracts & mineral spring waters, 370 Pearl, h Hoboken
1866 HECKING FREDERICK H. extracts, 370 Pearl, h Hoboken
1867 HECKING FREDERICK H. essences, 370 Pearl, h 222 Bloomfield, Hoboken
1868 Hecking Frederick H. oils 370 Pearl, h Hoboken
1869 Hecking Frederick H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h Hoboken
1870 Hecking Frederick H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h 68 Garden, Hoboken
1871 Hecking Frederick H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h 68 Garden, Hoboken
1872 Hecking Frederick H. drugs, 370 Pearl, h N. J.
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1883 Hecking Frederick, chemist, 388 Pearl, h 350 Atlantic av. B'klyn
1883 Hecking Frederick & Co. chemists, 388 Pearl

Civil War Draft Registration June-July 1863 Hudson County & Newark
222 Bloomfield St Hoboken Hecking Fredk H. 43 White Liquor Dealer Germany

1870 Hoboken Ward 1 Census
Hecking Fred 60 M W Druggist Wh $10,000 Prussia
Hecking Eliza 34 F W Keeping House Switzerland
Hecking Edwd 12 M W Att School New Jersey
Hecking Johan 8 F W New Jersey
Hecking Wilhemine F W 5 New Jersey

1880 Hoboken Census
68 Seventh Street
Hecking Fred H W M 68 Essence of Liquor Manuf Prussia
Hecking Eliza W F 45 Wife France
Hecking Frank W M 24 Son ship carpenter New York
Hecking Fred'k W M 22 Son clerk in store New Jersey
Hecking Edward W M 20 Son cigar maker New Jersey
Hecking Joanna W F 18 Daughter seamstress New Jersey
Hecking Minnie W F 15 Daughter seamstress New Jersey

1862 IRS Tax Hecking Frederick H. 222 Bloomfield Hoboken
1863 IRS Tax Frederick Hecking Hoboken
1864 IRS Tax Hecking Fred H. 222 Bloomfield Hoboken
1865 IRS Tax Hecking Fred H. 222 Bloomfield Hoboken
1866 IRS Tax Hecking Fred H. 222 Bloomfield Hoboken

 

[surfaceone]

Holy Smokes, Tod!

Did'ya have to visit the New York Library for that comprehensive listing bonanza?

So, Is Eliza French or Swiss? Did she change her mind? [8D]