GLENSHAW GLASS COMPANY ~ PENNSYLVANIA ~ BOTTLE DATE CODES ~ BRIEF HISTORY ~ ETC.

[SODAPOPBOB]

Correction ... Earlier I said Joe Louis Punch originated in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. This is incorrect! The parent company, "All American Drinks Corporation" was based in New York and is where Joe Louis consummated the deal with the company.

 

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This newspaper article, which I cropped into three sections for easier reading*, provides a good account of the agreement between Joe Louis and the All American Drinks Corporation. This is where I got the idea that Joe Louis Punch originated in Pittsburgh. Earlier I missed the part where it says it came from New York. *(You might have to save it first and then read it). From ... The Pittsburgh Carrier ~ August 31, 1946

 

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A similar article (same picture - different wording) appeared in this 1946 edition of the "American Bottler" magazine ...

 

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P.S. Its also possible that Joe Louis Punch was bottled later than 1950 as I stated earlier, but I have not found a confirmed date yet as to when it ceased production. I only know that all accounts say the brand had a very short life and ended in financial disaster for everyone concerned, including Joe Louis who later had multiple tax problems with the IRS.

 

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~ More Mystery ~


The Glenshaw Glass Company apparently not only made a [G] 1937 Joe Louis Punch bottle, they also made a ...

1. [G] 1825 bottle

and a ...

2. [G] 700 52 bottle


Both bottles are made of clear glass and are 7 ounces. However, the [G] 1825 bottle is "orange-peel-textured," whereas the [G] 700 52 bottle is smooth and not textured. Another thing about the [G] 700 52 bottle is the two-digit 52 suggest a date of 1952. What's weird about this is, if you go back and reread the page from the ACL book you'll notice where it says the double-digit date codes did not start until 1953 and had a Y on the lip and 53 on the base. But here we have an example of an apparent 1952 Glenshaw bottle with a double-digit on the base that doesn't jive with the charts. Unfortunately, I do not have a picture of the base on the [G] 700 52 bottle. I got the information from the seller's description. The seller merely described the embossing, including what he called a logo in a square, plus the 700 52. So without a confirmed picture, and because the seller might have mistaken a 53 for a 52, the actual existence of such a bottle remains in question until another one can be found showing a picture of the base. But even with this said, I have no reason to doubt the 700 aspect of the bottle, especially when you take into account the seller did not mention the Glenshaw Glass Company and apparently knew nothing about them or their codes. Nor do I have a picture of the base of the [G] 1825 bottle, but at the present I have no valid reason to doubt the seller. (Even though confirmation is called for here, I am currently of the opinion that both bottles were accurately described and that [G] 1825 and [G] 700 52 Joe Louis Punch bottles do exist)

 

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Here's the neck of the [G] 1825 Joe Louis Punch bottle to show the orange-peel-texture ...

 

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Here are the links where I found the two bottles in question. You can decide for yourselves if you think they are accurately described or not. In the meantime I will continue my search for pictures of the bases of similar bottles, especially "any" Glenshaw bottles with a [G] 700 52 on the base.

By the way, I don't mind telling you that "WorthPoint" is best source I am aware of for finding past eBay sales. On it's homepage it says it currently has 200+ million listings. I spend a lot of time on the site, but it can take hours upon hours to search through and I often come up empty-handed.



[G] 700 52 Link ...

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/joe-louis-punch-bottle-1952-painted-466288187



[G] 1825 Link ...

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-joe-louis-punch-soda-drink-458674945

 

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Gee, that didn't take long! So much for taking hours and hours. Here's a [G] 700 52 "Lift" bottle that even has a picture of the base ... http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lift-beverage-soda-bottle-acl-prop-481565438

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Hold the phone! Its starting to look as if the double-digit numbers that follow the style number 700 might not be dates but are some other type of code. I've even seen a 700-32 on a 7up bottle that I know for certain is not a 1932 ACL. I'm now thinking the mysterious double-digit numbers are connected in some way with the bottles style/shape. Hence, the so called [G] 700 52 Joe Louis Punch bottle was likely not made in 1952 but possibly earlier. Hey, squirtbob You're the resident expert on the [G] 700 bottles. Please help me out here and let us know what your take is on the double-digit numbers. Gracias' []

 

[M.C.Glass]

Thanks, Bob for all the JLP/Kayo info.It also seems strange that the repainted Joe Louis bottle has Kayo Chocolate in it. Unless it's just rancid fruit punch in there. Regardless, the repainted bottle is NOT a good look. IMO