SODAPOPBOB
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This might be a case of my not having looked around enough, but after numerous hours of searching the Internet I can't find a confirmed example of a Pictorial / Fancy soda bottle that ...
1. Is not a Hutchinson bottle.
2. Is not a blob-top bottle.
3. Has a Crown Closure.
4. Was hand blown in a mold.
5. Was not made by an automatic bottle machine (Pre-ABM).
Thus I am seeking help to find examples of circa 1900 to circa 1910 Non-ABM Crown soda bottles that do have ...
1. Fancy embossing (diamond-cut, etc) like the later (1920s) deco/designer bottles.
2. An embossed pictorial image like some of the earlier Hutch's.
Because many of the earlier Hutchinson bottles have images of eagles - trains - etc embossed on them, and were hand blown in molds, we know the ability to carve a mold with those types of images was possible, not to mention the even older pictorial/historical flasks.
So my primary questions are ...
1. Was it just a trend in that fancy/pictorial Crown / Non-ABM soda bottles were not popular between about 1900 and 1910 and as a consequence simply weren't made?
Or ...
2. They were popular and abundant but I have just failed to find any?
Unfortunately, most eBay sellers and the like probably don't know the difference between a ABM soda bottle and a Non-ABM soda bottle, and many of those that think they do know often get it wrong. In fact, I'm not always 100% sure myself. So for the sake of simplicity, and in the majority of cases, I would describe a ABM soda bottle as one whose mold seam runs the entire length of the bottle, including up and over the lip. Of course, some ABM bottles were also "tooled," which would smooth out the upper portion of the seam, but I think that particular feature is somewhat less likely on a true ABM soda bottle. On Non-ABM soda bottles the seam would typically stop near the shoulder.
Anyhoo, if you have an example of the type of soda bottle I am searching for, please share a picture of it with us and tell us something about it, especially if it has a makers mark and/or a date code. And please, let's be as specific as we can and focus on soda bottles you are about 99% certain are Non-ABM Crown's that are either fancy or have an image embossed on them. Typically speaking, automatic bottle machines were, for the most part, introduced and became in popular use "around" 1910.
I will continue to search myself and will let you know if/when I find anything. My current observation is that pictorial/fancy soda bottles just weren't popular in the late 1800s / early 1900s and explains why I can't find the examples I am looking for.
And yes, I confess I might be searching for the impossible again, but I guess that's what makes me tick. (Lol)
Thanks a lot.
Sodapopbob
1. Is not a Hutchinson bottle.
2. Is not a blob-top bottle.
3. Has a Crown Closure.
4. Was hand blown in a mold.
5. Was not made by an automatic bottle machine (Pre-ABM).
Thus I am seeking help to find examples of circa 1900 to circa 1910 Non-ABM Crown soda bottles that do have ...
1. Fancy embossing (diamond-cut, etc) like the later (1920s) deco/designer bottles.
2. An embossed pictorial image like some of the earlier Hutch's.
Because many of the earlier Hutchinson bottles have images of eagles - trains - etc embossed on them, and were hand blown in molds, we know the ability to carve a mold with those types of images was possible, not to mention the even older pictorial/historical flasks.
So my primary questions are ...
1. Was it just a trend in that fancy/pictorial Crown / Non-ABM soda bottles were not popular between about 1900 and 1910 and as a consequence simply weren't made?
Or ...
2. They were popular and abundant but I have just failed to find any?
Unfortunately, most eBay sellers and the like probably don't know the difference between a ABM soda bottle and a Non-ABM soda bottle, and many of those that think they do know often get it wrong. In fact, I'm not always 100% sure myself. So for the sake of simplicity, and in the majority of cases, I would describe a ABM soda bottle as one whose mold seam runs the entire length of the bottle, including up and over the lip. Of course, some ABM bottles were also "tooled," which would smooth out the upper portion of the seam, but I think that particular feature is somewhat less likely on a true ABM soda bottle. On Non-ABM soda bottles the seam would typically stop near the shoulder.
Anyhoo, if you have an example of the type of soda bottle I am searching for, please share a picture of it with us and tell us something about it, especially if it has a makers mark and/or a date code. And please, let's be as specific as we can and focus on soda bottles you are about 99% certain are Non-ABM Crown's that are either fancy or have an image embossed on them. Typically speaking, automatic bottle machines were, for the most part, introduced and became in popular use "around" 1910.
I will continue to search myself and will let you know if/when I find anything. My current observation is that pictorial/fancy soda bottles just weren't popular in the late 1800s / early 1900s and explains why I can't find the examples I am looking for.
And yes, I confess I might be searching for the impossible again, but I guess that's what makes me tick. (Lol)
Thanks a lot.
Sodapopbob