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It would be great if anyone has any information about this intriguing bottle…. What it was used for? Date? Rare or common as muck?

I discovered this bottle while excavating a plot of land that we are currently working on. Over the past year we have been excavating the site for a new development just off Hampstead High Street, a Village in North West London - England, a short walk from Hampstead heath and the Vale of health.

Before we started the excavation works, an old derelict cottage sat on the site. The cottage had been un-occupied for at least 30-40 years and left to deteriorate causing the roof to cave in. We had to demolish the remains of the cottage before excavating. The limited space around the site meant we had to dig by hand with spade and shovel. I discovered the bottle in a pile of clay and soil that had been brought to the surface; I’m not exactly sure what depth the bottle was at when it was dug out but around O.5 to 4m. It seemed to have mainly soil and not clay on it, suggesting it was above 2m but I am still not sure of that. I lightly rinsed it with some water and was surprised that it was completely intact; I have recovered many bottles clay pipes and other finds over the years but nothing with this character hence why I’m trying to get some information on it.

It seems to be hand blown, slightly leaning to one side, the rim lip on neck is not completely circular/uneven
Hopefully we can bring some light to this wonderful bottle.

I have used metric and imperial measurements.

Key facts:
Discovered: 14/2/12
Overall Dig depth: 6m
Find depth: between 1-4m
Location: Hampstead - London - England.
Bottle size: (W)5 3/4†(H)6 1/4†opening int dia 16mm
Weight:800g
Glass colour with no light passed through: dark brown
Glass colour with light passed through: light green to amber yellow
Three Bubbles approximately 10mm dia in glass base
Neck wall thickness: aprox 4mm
Base wall thickness: aprox 5-6mm

Speculation welcome!

Regards Anthony



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Early 1700's(maybe late 1600's ???), used for wine or liquor, fairly easy to come by but a Great bottle to find, you did good... Welcome to the forum... Jim
 

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It would be great if anyone has any information about this intriguing bottle…. What it was used for? Date? Rare or common as muck?

I discovered this bottle while excavating a plot of land that we are currently working on. Over the past year we have been excavating the site for a new development just off Hampstead High Street, a Village in North West London - England, a short walk from Hampstead heath and the Vale of health.

Before we started the excavation works, an old derelict cottage sat on the site. The cottage had been un-occupied for at least 30-40 years and left to deteriorate causing the roof to cave in. We had to demolish the remains of the cottage before excavating. The limited space around the site meant we had to dig by hand with spade and shovel. I discovered the bottle in a pile of clay and soil that had been brought to the surface; I’m not exactly sure what depth the bottle was at when it was dug out but around O.5 to 4m. It seemed to have mainly soil and not clay on it, suggesting it was above 2m but I am still not sure of that. I lightly rinsed it with some water and was surprised that it was completely intact; I have recovered many bottles clay pipes and other finds over the years but nothing with this character hence why I’m trying to get some information on it.

It seems to be hand blown, slightly leaning to one side, the rim lip on neck is not completely circular/uneven
Hopefully we can bring some light to this wonderful bottle.

I have used metric and imperial measurements.

Key facts:
Discovered: 14/2/12
Overall Dig depth: 6m
Find depth: between 1-4m
Location: Hampstead - London - England.
Bottle size: (W)5 3/4†(H)6 1/4†opening int dia 16mm
Weight:800g
Glass colour with no light passed through: dark brown
Glass colour with light passed through: light green to amber yellow
Three Bubbles approximately 10mm dia in glass base
Neck wall thickness: aprox 4mm
Base wall thickness: aprox 5-6mm

Speculation welcome!

Regards Anthony


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Well you found a nice early one. It's an 'onion' wine bottle (so called because the shape is a bit like an onion). Slightly flat-sided, the shape of the body and the string rim suggest a roughly 1700-ish date to me. I might be out by a few years, but it's very unlikely to date later than about 1720-25.

Free-blown (without the use of a mould of any kind) the sides would have been slightly flattened by rolling on a metal plate. There's a fantastic pontil scar on the base, where the bottle was held on a metal rod after being detached from the blowing iron, while the lip was finished off.

A really good find!
 

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Early 1700's(maybe late 1600's ???), used for wine or liquor, fairly easy to come by but a Great bottle to find, you did good... Welcome to the forum... Jim
 

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Not realizing we are commenting on your bottle I see...LOL[;)]
 

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