Mold Cavity Half-Leaf Repair Marks

[Just Dig it]

Yeah There should be a notice board on here with their account names so no one buys from them again

 

[annie44]

Here is one from my collection - this is on a half pint Kissengen Water, Hanbury Smith. The crescent partially obscures the H in Smith.........

www.qualityantiquebottles.com

 

[RED Matthews]

Hello again Annie, Well I am really glad you found this one in your collection. It just supports my explanation of how these marks were created. What I am anxious to find is two bottles with the same mark in the same place. Back when these bottles were made they didn't use mold numbers. About the only marks they did use were makers marks on the bottom to help them measure their shifts production and nail a problem bottle to the shop crew that made them.

Thanks a million, for this one. I hope others can nail down some more examples.
RED Matthews

 

[appliedlips]

Annie, your picture again supports the fact that these are not mold repairs.. What customer in their right mind would be pleased with thousands of bottles with a big, ugly flaw, front and center? Not to mention this, would have to have been done intentionally on the the part of the glasshouse..

 

[onekick1]

I have been watching this thread with considerable interest. Although for me, the jury is out on how this half leaf was made, I have to agree with appliedlips. What customer would pay good money for bottles that had an ugly flaw that obscured the name or address of their business?
Has anyone supplied a picture of two bottles with the same half leaf mark in the same place?

 

[phil44]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pontiled-Baltimore-P-BABB-Nice_W0QQitemZ220399063663QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3350ced26f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

If anyone cares to check out the listing for the P Babb here it is. Not sure this guy knows the history of the bottle????

So what's the consensus on the pushed down fin? Here's what I understand the small fin was pinched in the mold when it was closed while the glass was still a gather. The mold was re-opened gather repositioned in mold, then it was expanded into the bottle but the resulting fin had cooled and was somehow pushed down flat against the body of the bottle upon completion. If it happened in an area where embossing was it would alter it because it remained cooler than the rest of the glass.

 

[baltbottles]

A couple years sounds about right when it last sold. Its hard to not forget about that big ugly open bubble in the back. I don't know if the guy he bought it from described what was done to it or not.

Phil,

Your description of how the error occurs sounds right to me.

Chris

 

[JOETHECROW]

Okay everyone,....I just had to ressurect this post. What I always thought was a "birdswing", or a slump in the glass of this ink turned out to be...you guessed it!...I took a close look at this flaw today while photographing some inks and while I've noticed it dozens of times, I never put two and two together. The post here on the forum had been out since the last time I scrutinized this umbrella ink, I guess. Well, here's a pic. Joe

 

[cyberdigger]

Holy carp!! That's the finest example yet of...... ... that!! [] I mean WOW!!

 

[blobbottlebob]

Mighty cool. Is the glass thicker behind the anomaly? I think that helps prove the 'pinch' theory.