Numsen's

[Nawakwa]

I'll try and post a picture later, but for now does anyone here know about anything about Numsen's Yacht Club Vinegar? Hometown? It's a gray salt glaze jug about a pint size, the name is pressed in, no decoration and the best part is it's attic mint.

 

[GuntherHess]

There is a yacht club salad dressing out of Chicago.. do know if its related.

 

[sldavis]

Hello.I've got a couple of those yacht club bottles out of Chicago.I'll see if Numsen's is on the base.Where did you get the jug that might help? Thanks Clinton

 

[Nawakwa]

I'm going to try a web search for bottle clubs in that area and see if I get any hits. My wife is a Va. Realtor and I picked it up when a couple were down sizing, the only thing I learned from them is it had been passed down through the family. I love the name, Yacht Club. I wonder how many people when it was produced knew what a yacht was.

 

[cowseatmaize]

WM. NUMSEN & SONS BALTIMORE embossed under draped shoulder, round, aqua, open pontil, two sizes, both ext. rare - 325*
NUMSEN CARROL & CO BALTO
embossed on base, approx. 10", aqua, ext. rare - 250*
Pictured specimen has a string of glass in the neck.
It was in 1847 William Numsen was a baker but two short years later in part­nership with his sons began a pickling house and vinegar depot at 307 W Pratt Street in Boston. By 1851 the pickling & preserving establishment was moved to 18 Light Street and Numsen added a partner John Thomas. To date no embossed speci­mens exist of this partnership.
The partnership changed again in 1865, dropping Thomas and adding S.J. Carrol, but continuing at the same location. Not until 1874 did the name once again" re­turn to Wm. Numsen & Sons to continue with the trade through 1906.
It was during the partnership of Numsen Carrol that the Baltimore Condensed Milk Co., working under the Borden license, with Gail Borden built a fair volume of sales. They offered Borden $2,000 more than the stock was worth but of course Gail Borden refused.
Trademarks #6950 and 51 were filed Nov. 1878 for canned or preserved edible* and depicted a sailing vessel "Clipper/1 It was noted in the filing of their trade­marks they often stated 'in tint orj glass' a comment not generally made. Another unusual comment was 'such llk*J goods usually put up by food-packer* except fish.' The last trademark found was issued in June of 1906 for fruit* and vegetables In tins or glass.

 

[cobaltbot]

Cows, great research, I'm assuming the BOSTON is a typo for BALTIMORE.

 

[cowseatmaize]

Betty Zumwalt did the research.
I thought it was interesting with the TM Clipper ship info of 1878. The Boston Yacht Clab started in 1866 which looks about the time of the jug. I played with my OCR scanner and it got a little skippy.
May have been a progression or have no connection at all. You decide.

 

[cobaltbot]

Based on the fact that Pratt and Light street are both well known Baltimore streets and the clipper ship is synonymous with Baltimore I think its a typo.

 

[Nawakwa]

Wow, that's research! I think it's a match, Md. is just a stones throw from Richmond (closest to where the home was). I remember seeing a bottle man's name looking for Baltimore bottles, from the pictures of his collection he's no light weight. I'll see if I can locate him and is email to see if he can verify this is the same Numsen's. The date falls with the jug and certainly the fact they produced vinegar and pickles. I'm curious tthough when he first used the name Wm. Numsen & Son. What a treat it would be if this was one of the first containers he bottled with. Thanks a million, I'll follow up with your lead and see where it takes me.

 

[cowseatmaize]

If you get any further, keep us posted!! Good luck.