OWENS-ILLINOIS MARK 4285G ~ WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR?

[SODAPOPBOB]

Jim ~

Is Mystic a super rare bottle? I can't find a picture of one anywhere. The only reference I could find was on gono.com, which listed it as being from 1962, but no picture.

Bob

 

[epackage]

It's rare to me Bob, I've never seen one and I'm unsure if it was ever produced. I have two embossed examples but have yet to see this acl...

I agree that #320 is a certain 'style' of a bottle by whatever glass company would have been used by them...

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Jim ~

Thanks.

Maybe a Mystic acl will turn yet. Based on the 100+ Owens-Illinois bottles I looked at last night, I don't recall "any" with a three-digit style code. They were (almost without exception) all four-digit with a G on the end.

Check out this website. I just now found it while looking for your Mystic bottle. I've just barely scrolled through it, but it might come in handy for future research.

[ Numerous Pages ]

http://vintagesodaads.ecrater.com/c/173879/vintage-ads-for-soda-bottle-cork?&srn=0

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Since everybody and their brother probably has a 1940s-50s Royal Crown acl, how'z about we check as many as we can and see which one's and from where have the Owens-Illinois mark ...

4441-G

They should be easy to locate even among rows of shelved bottles like mine are displayed.

For those that have one (or more) of the 4441-G bottles, and are interested in particpating, please indicate the following ...

1. O-I Plant Location Number
2. Bottler City/State
3. Date
4. Whether or not they have the Duraglas signature

This could prove interesting. Especially if one is found from a state other than California.

Thanks a lot.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Jim ~

I realize you already know this, so its primarily intended for those that don't and might be wondering what the reference to "Flint" colored glass is that was indicated on the bottom of your layout sheet. Basically speaking, Flint is clear / colorless glass.

http://www.sha.org/bottle/colors.htm#Colorless

(I meant to mention this earlier but forgot)

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Long story short ...

Based on several Owens-Illinois Royal Crown bottles currently on e-Bay that had accurate information and/or pictures, I was able to confirm the style code for ...

Owens-Illinois Plant #9 in Streator, Illinois is ... G2861

The dates ranged between 1946 and 1956. Some were Duraglas and some were not. Of the one's showing pictures of the base, I did not see a Streator bottle that did not have the G2861 code.

I also found ...

G2906 for plant #14 in Brighton, New Jersey
638G for plant #15 in Okmulgee, Oklahoma

Plus another plant #20 from Oakland, California with 4441G

Here's the link to the Oakland bottle. Check out the seller's description where he says ... "a blurry word that ends with glass"

It's halarious! He obviously means "Duraglas" but for whatever reason doesn't realize it.

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-Royal-Crown-Cola-Bottle-/140891335017?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cdc72969

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Summary ...

It's starting to look as if each Owens-Illinois plant had it's own seperate/different code for the same bottle style.

SPB

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Just for the record ...

Here are the Royal Crown / Owens-Illinois bases most recently discussed.

23 <(I)> 53
Los Angeles, Ca.
1953
Duraglas
4441-G

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

And the ...

G-2861
Duraglas
9 (I) 56
Streator, Illinois
1956

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

In conclusion ...

My appreciation goes out to all members for allowing me to indulge myself in this project. I hope I have provided sufficent evidence to support my belief that the Owens-Illinois numbers/letters under discussion in this thread are in fact ...

STYLE CODES

If eventually refuted, I will humbly stand corrected.

Thanks again.

Bob

PS ~

And please don't hesitate to share your Owens-Illinois / Royal Crown info like I spoke of earlier. It will help considerably to connect the dots.

Graci'