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I hope you are taking notes, because I'm the one researching and writing this and I'm getting a little confused myself. But that's okay, we'll figure it out eventually. [:)] According to this newspaper article, it was the Pacific Glass Works who purchased the property near Fifteenth and Folsom streets to build a glass factory. If you read any of the previous articles about the November 29, 1900 roof accident you probably noticed where they said the plant was just recently completed and ready to begin production in about a week. So it appears that most if not all of the articles include various (confusing) typos as to who actually operated the factory. If this account is accurate, as I believe it to be, then we now know it was the Pacific Glass Works roof that collapsed on Thanksgiving day on November 29, 1900. However, this isn't the end of the story. Go back to the Makers Marks listings and you will see where it shows the Pacific Glass Works as being in operation between 1862 and 1875. But if that's the case, then how do we explain this article about the company from ... The San Francisco Chronicle ~ June 2, 1900 With my main point of emphasis being, we now have a date of 1900, which is two years earlier than the makers marks websites attribute to these various companies. Notice in the article that the property was basically bare land at the time of the 1900 purchase. ( To be continued ) [attachment=Pacific Glass Work...itle (1050x80).jpg] [attachment=Pacific Glass Work...900 (1050x863).jpg]
 

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Remember where I just said ... "However, this isn't the end of the story. Go back to the Makers Marks listings and you will see where it shows the Pacific Glass Works as being in operation between 1862 and 1875." Well, as near as I can determine, it wasn't the Pacific Glass Works that was in operation between 1862 and 1875, but was ... The San Francisco Glass Works Article from ... The Santa Cruz Sentinel ~ Santa Cruz, California ~ August 5, 1865 ( Of the numerous companies mentioned thus far, the San Francisco Glass Works is the only one I can find from the mid 1800s ) [attachment=San Francisco Glas...tle (1050x812).jpg] [attachment=San Francisco Glas...865 (650x1050).jpg]
 

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Meanwhile, back at the makers mark website(s), we find ... San Francisco Glass Works = Circa 1860s-1870s SFGW = 1868-1876 SF&PGW = 1876-1902 S.F.& P.G.W ... San Francisco and Pacific Glass Works (1876-c.1901) I'm not sure which mark they were using in 1865, but they were definitely in operation at that time
 

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Its time for a picture of a soda bottle - after all, this is soda pop thread, right? [;)] Based on what we've seen so far, does anyone care to take a stab at this bottle's date? [attachment=PCGW Coke Bottle 002 (480x640).jpg] [attachment=PCGW Coke Bottle 001 (640x480).jpg]
 

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Here goes some timelines and addys of the san Francisco glass companies from .....1859-1860San Francisco Glass Works ( Baker and Cutting) beale sts and howard sts........1862San Francisco Glass factory( g.w. Post) Greenwich and Powell sts.........1863-64Pacific Glass Co. (Hobbs, Gray, Hannsman, Taylor, etc) Iowa and Mariposa sts......1865-66Pacific Glass Works (Saulsbury, Kirk, & Mordecai) Iowa and Mariposa sts........1865-66San Francisco Flint Glass Works ( c. Newman & P. Brannan) corner Ritch & Townsend sts........1866-68San Francisco Glass Works ( newman & brannan) Townsend st, between 3rd and 4th sts.........1866-1874Pacific Glass Works ( Bennett & Co) Iowa & Mariposa sts.........1870-72San Francisco Glass Works ( C. Newman & C. Duval) King st, Foot of 4th.......1872-75San Francisco Glass Works (Carlton Newman Proprietor) King st and Fourth...........1875Pacific Glass Works ( John Taylor & R. Pattridge) Iowa and Mariposa sts..........1875-1886S.F. & Pacific Glass Works ( c. Newman & Co.) King st and foot of 4th st.......... 1866-1897S.F. & Pacific Glass Works (C. Newman & family) 7th and Townsend sts..........1898-99S. F. Pacific Glass Works ( Newman family & Abramson * Heunisch. 7th and Townsend sts.
 

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Several of us central Valley bottle diggers have had the luck to dig at the sites on 7th and Townsend sts. and have gotten a lot of great bottles out of the ground. I have had the further luck of digging a glass recycler who had set up on King st near 2nd st, and at another recycler at Townsend near 3rd...........Sadly out here those days are forever gone, but I can look back fondly at them.......Andy
 

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andy volkerts said:
Disapointing to say the least, Warren doesn't mention any history newer than 1900, and that was the end of the San Francisco and pacific glassworks, no mention of the Pacific coast glassworks at all, to new.....Andy
I'm pretty shocked by that. [8|] Maybe too many records went up in flame in '06?
 

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andy volkerts said:
1859-1860 - San Francisco Glass Works (Baker and Cutting) Beale sts and Howard sts.1862 - San Francisco Glass Factory (G.W. Post) Greenwich and Powell sts.1863-64 - Pacific Glass Co. (Hobbs, Gray, Hannsman, Taylor, etc) Iowa and Mariposa sts.1865-66 - Pacific Glass Works (Saulsbury, Kirk, & Mordecai) Iowa and Mariposa sts.1865-66 - San Francisco Flint Glass Works (C. Newman & P. Brannan) corner Ritch & Townsend sts.1866-68 - San Francisco Glass Works ( Newman & Brannan) Townsend St., between 3rd and 4th sts.1866-1874 - Pacific Glass Works ( Bennett & Co) Iowa & Mariposa sts.1870-72 - San Francisco Glass Works ( C. Newman & C. Duval) King St., Foot of 4th.1872-75 - San Francisco Glass Works (Carlton Newman Proprietor) King St. and Fourth.1875 - Pacific Glass Works ( John Taylor & R. Pattridge) Iowa and Mariposa sts.1875-1886 - S.F. & Pacific Glass Works (C. Newman & Co.) King St. and foot of 4th st.1866-1897 - S.F. & Pacific Glass Works (C. Newman & family) 7th and Townsend sts.1898-99 - S. F. Pacific Glass Works (Newman family & Abramson - Heunisch) 7th and Townsend sts.

Andy Thanks a million - very helpful. I edited your list in a timeline format to make it a little easier to see the transitions. Let me study it for awhile and I'll be back.
 

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