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Brian,

I have a very unusual Blown Three Mold inkwell that was found in upstate NY near the Canadian border. I have only seen 2 others. I suspect that it may be MVG... have you ever seen it or shards of it?

Thanks to you and Mark for letting me pick your brain a bit!

Mike

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Another "must be" MVG... not as nice as the oneCAZ has though!

Mike

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Here are my 2 cents. The sided unembossed utility, the E Horton probably yes. Nothing would surprise me, but I doubt the Moffats were made there. I think the lip is a style I haven't seen from there and with a bottle that was very heavily produced you would expect some shards would have been found. Likewise on the Brinkerhoffs although the color, shape, top are more consistant with shards from there. The others I just don't know. The Spooners sure seems likely judging by the shape. There is an awesome (1 or 2 known) bright green Lewis Cough Syrup, an I Coverts Balm Of Life (1 or 2 known) and a JS Woods Sarsaparilla (1 known) in the same shape/style as that unembossed sided utility that I believe are almost certainly Vernon but no confirming shards to say for sure. The ink seems doubtful although i can't put my finger on why.
 

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Thanks Mark. I have seen the I. Coverts sided piece, great bottle! The Lewis Cough Syrup looked more like the Albany or Lockport glass, but I could be wrong. I haven't seen the Wood's Sarsaparilla... would that be the Woodman's?

I know some of these are so obscure that it is impossible to even see an example to study the characteristics! Another one that looks right would be the Dr. Geo Rogers... and ironically that is a Pulmonary Syrup like the Beekmans.

I handled a Phelps Genuine Arcanum last week, and that bottle feel like a Mt. Vernon piece as well.

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The ads for the Lewis Cough Syrup pre-date (1830s) both Albany and Lockport. MVG made some glass in that vivid green color, like the MVG seal bottles.
 

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Mark and I are in agreement that the Spooner’s is a good possibility for MVG. I think the unembossed 8-sided utility is also a good candidate but I am extremely cautious when it comes to attributing unembossed wares and would only give it a “could beâ€. I haven’t come across anything like that inkwell and I also don’t have a good feel for that one. As for the Covert’s… I personally would say that one is pretty much confirmed as MVG.

I’m afraid it’s going to be awhile and a lot more hours excavating before we get a better idea what was truly made there. Embossed fragments are few and far between. Shards with more than three letters, harder yet. The chances of finding half of something… not likely. Chances finding something whole… play the lottery, your chances are better.
 

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I wanted to add that although I am in agreement with Mark on the lip finish of Mike's Phoenix Bitters not being typical for Mt. Vernon there are other examples that I've seen that come closer to what I would expect from MVG. Jeff has such an example on his site http://www.jeffnholantiquebottles.com
 

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Wow! Glad to have found this thread! Beautiful photos and great information! Thanks everyone!
 

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Mike,
When you have time, I'd like to see the base of that ink.

Thanks,
Cindy
 

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