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Whatcha got? I dont really have any overly crude bottles in my collection but I love looking at pictures of em.
 

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Here's my entry, not the crudest I have ever owned but one I still have and like. It is a Punkin' seed with too much glass for the mold. It squeezed out at the neck / shoulder, caused a swirly glob in the same area inside and the bottom is also VERY thick (not shown).

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Here's my only real MONSTER, it has a Orange Peel surface over the entire bottle as you can see. I consider it in the top 5 in my collection because of it, I have to acquire a smooth version so I can display them together...

I'd like to know what causes such a thing to happen....



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Here's my only real MONSTER, it has a Orange Peel surface over the entire bottle as you can see. I consider it in the top 5 in my collection because of it, I have to acquire a smooth version so I can display them together...

I'd like to know what causes such a thing to happen....

That is way KUHL, definitely a keeper. I believe that "Orange Peel" effect comes from a mold that was newly cleaned and oiled. I am sure Red can / will add a more definitive explaination.
 

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Well both of you Jim's have me stumped and interested at the same time.

botlguy Your bottle a has to be a parison that got pinched in the initial mold closing effort. The mold was opened and then closed around the parison again. The pinch that shows on the base of the neck confirms that. I would like to see a set of pictures, taken with a white neutral backing - to better asses the direction of the parison form when it was pinched. It is a very unique example.

epackage Your bottle is also very fascinating. I read botlguy's posted reference to me, but I don't think any molds were ever covered with an oil like he suggested. That isn't to say it wasn't done, but the surface looks like something was put on it - that is for sure.
Molds were lubricated with oil on a cotton swab, putting the swabbing oil in the mold where the glass wasn't releasing right. I can't imagine doing the whole cavity like it was obviously done, in the mold your bottle came out of.
With my experience and many of my collected bottles, show signs of glass conditions that provide evidence and hints of being made in wooden molds, ceramic molds, but I haven't seen the orange peel like it is on your "/ KINCH " bottle.
I will be taking a copy of your picture with me to NY this summer and use it as a subject in one of our meetings at the Corning Glass Museum. this summer. It seems like this type of thing comes along with me each year.

Thanks for posting your interesting examples. RED Matthews
 

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Happy to show the pic Red, if you would like to have it with you in person instead of a picture when you go I'll be happy to lend it to you for your trip there. Let me know when you are heading that way and I'll send it out for your personal inspection...Jim
 

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Here's a few I have, these can't compare with the fantastic Missouri bottles that Tim recently posted, but they're crude still....This thread is tailor made for Road Dog,....and a few others I can't wait to see....[:)]

I've always really liked this bottle,...gifted to me by forum member Anthony-John Cabello...(ajohn) Looks like melting ice!

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Here is "my" crudest bottle. A beautifully ugly whiskey flask. I posted this here on the forum several years ago when I first got it. This was found in an antique store in Northern California.

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Jim, I think your orange-peel effect POSSIBLY may be from being dipped in hydro-fluoric acid. This was commonly done to removed sickness/stain in the 1970s before tumbling was commonplace. I have a local ponytiled med that has that same texture, maybe someone else has some experience with that????
 

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Jim, I think your orange-peel effect POSSIBLY may be from being dipped in hydro-fluoric acid. This was commonly done to removed sickness/stain in the 1970s before tumbling was commonplace. I have a local ponytiled med that has that same texture, maybe someone else has some experience with that????

Now that you mention it, yes I can see that as a possibility.. I've played with HFL, mostly on insides of really sick ones, and I see the resemblance..
 

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