8 bubbles - 7up

[iggyworf]

I made a deal with 23baseball to get that misprint bottle from him. (thanx 23baseball) I have a 12 oz one very similar to that one. It looks like the red is applied after the white. Thought it would cool to have this one. On the one I have the red is shifted to the right. That is a killer sign.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I'd like to know if SPBob's all red label has any ghost trace of white color, like most all bottles missing red show, or if it never was applied...

MCglass I don't own the all red bottle and not sure where I got the picture - possibly from the Internet or here on the forum. When I do a zoom on it I cannot see any traces of white but suspect there probably was originally. All I know about it is that I titled it as being from Fairmont, West Virginia. Here's your bottle alongside a similar one to compare the acl placement ...

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Talk about messed up error bottles, check out this one from Indianapolis, Indiana. As you can see, the white was obviously applied first. ( I don't own this one, either ).

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. MCglass I just noticed on your error bottle that the trademark symbol (R inside-a-circle) is white on top of the red, but on the Indianapolis error bottle I posted the mark appears to be cut-out so as to allow the white to show through. I wonder what that's all about?

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Duh! [:-] After clicking back-and-forth between the two bottles I just realized that your trademark is cut-out and appears white because it is on top of the white background.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

It would be interesting to know when it first occurred and how often that the red is applied on top of the white. Most of my 7up bottles are currently packed away, but the 1938 example I have on my desk is definitely two separate applications and not red on top of white. I'd like to suggest that other members check some of their bottles and see what they come up with. Use a flashlight if necessary to see through the glass to the backside of the acl application.

 

[M.C.Glass]

It would be interesting to know when it first occurred and how often that the red is applied on top of the white.

It seems that when they changed front labels away from the Swimsuit Girl, 1953 according to Bill Lockhart, they also began to lay the red part of the label over a white base.If not mainly because white baked onto the glass better, it could also have been to eliminate any slight register shift that often showed up in the bubbles on the Swimsuit Girl labels. I have a modern commemorative Swimsuit girl bottle and there is no white under the red on it either -These are not my bottles BTW.

 

[The Trainwrecks]

Maybe you guys can answer this- i have a 7 up bottle embossed at neck and the bottom with 7 up logo- no location- all that remains of an acl is the ghosting which shows it is the 8 bubble- i have yet to see another just like this- it is green- the finish has a G- I on one side and 37 on the other- i could ask a million questions about this but will start with this 1st- I'll post pics if needed

 

[Eric]

In most screening jobs the light color is laid down first... the darker colors cover the lighter colors easier... if red would be put down first the white may look pink if not thick enough. Wow unbelievable that that bottle made it to market. there usually is a grove in the heel of a ACL bottle that they use to keep bottle from turning when being printed on.. Obviously that bottle slipped. rare find there.

 

[Eric]

On these older 8 bubbles and some older 7 bubbles the red doesn't touch the white so no need for theextra white box under print but on the example of the one that slipped, the red box touches/framed inwhite with white bubbles so they needed the white under print box so if there was a slight slip therewouldn't be gaps but as you can see... when the bottle slips off the pin you get a problem.