COCA COLA QUESTION / QUANDARY

[SODAPOPBOB]

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[CreekWalker]

Good morning! Then again, originally this box/case was probaly for the 1910 SS Coke bottle, and later used for the Hobbleshirts, 1915, 1923, Pat.D, as the paint was altered to fit the trademark. I would not think this is for the hutchenson.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Creek Walker ~

Despite how it might appear, please believe me when I say I am being opened minded about this. Had it not been for member fer_de_lance resurrecting this thread, I probably would not have given it another thought. But because of the renewed interest, I feel compelled to respond, especially regarding the suggestions that the various boxes with the small holes were also intended for the straight-sided bottles as well as the later hobbleskirts. I can somewhat see the logic of turning the hobbleskirts upside down "because" most of them have the city/state embossed on the base. But when it comes to the straight-sided bottles, that upside down aspect confuses me "because" I am not aware of too many straight-sided Coca Cola bottles that have anything other than Coca Cola embossed on the base, and rarely a city/state. But then again, maybe it was a practice carried over from the hutchinson era to keep the crown cork wet and sealed. But I think more than anything else that confuses me is my inability to find a single picture of either the straight-sided bottles or the hobbleskirts that show them being cased/shipped/transported in the upside down position. And I haven't forgotten the 1929 standardization illustration on page two which clearly indicates the small holes. I'm just saying I wonder about the actual upside down aspect for bottles other than hutchinson's. So far, every vintage photograph I've seen, including those of horse drawn delivery wagons, always show the bottles in the upright position.

Open minded here and just looking for facts.

Respectfully,

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Horse Drawn Coca Cola Wagon 1906 ...

http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-893660/identified-1906-photograph-salisbury-nc-coca-cola-plant-horse-drawn-carriage-old.html

 

[CreekWalker]

Hi Bob, I had lunch today, with a local collector, who has basicly a private museum of Coca-Cola items. I pulled out my laptop afterward, and went to this forum, showing him the box photos. And inquired about his knowledge about this item and the purpose for shipping the bottles upside down. His answer was , he had seen one of the boxes, but it was not a local Coke bottler. The owner said the storage and shipping box, was for transporting to rural towns, on rough roads, the upside down bottles would not scrub together or rub against the case slats. Thus preserving the paper label on the straight side bottles, and preventing damage , to the colorful paper label. Customers never wanted a worn looking bottle label, as this would corcern them about the freshness of the product. Also the liquid was less likely to escape, thru a wet sealed cork top. The boxes were never intended for use with the later hobbleshirt, but may have been used by frugal local bottlers. Plausible and Makes sense to me, Rick

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

CW ~

Thanks for the contribution.

I am literally walking out the door and only have time to post the following picture. Please study it closely and I will be back later tonight or tomorrow and tell you more about it.

Bob

 

[megaoceanne]

see this post coca cola 6 pack war time https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/6-pack-war-time/m-577843/tm.htm

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

ORIGINAL: megaoceanne

see this post coca cola 6 pack war time https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/6-pack-war-time/m-577843/tm.htm

mega ~

Welcome to the forum.

Are you suggesting your thread is in some way related to this one or that you just wanted me to look at your thread personally for some reason?

By the way, I did look at it and will post a comment later.

Thanks.

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Creek Walker / All Members & Guest

I acknowledge it is plausible that "one" of the reasons for the perforated holes in the bottoms of the crates was to insure that paper label bottles could be shipped upside down and not rub against one another. I also acknowledge "another" reason for the holes was to allow the bottles to be placed upside down when empty and drain properly. Not to mention various other explanations for the holes, including general shipping purposes and embossed base bottler identification.

But rather than me going into more gobbledygook and complicating this thread any more than it already is, my primary focus boils down to the following ... (Which pertains to the initial red case from Boise, Idaho that has a lid on it).

1. Dating it: How can it be determined with certainty whether the red case was made in circa 1906 during the still available Hutchinson bottle era, or made in circa 1926 during the primarily Crown bottle era?

2. Actual use: Even though there is ample evidence to support that the cases with perforated holes for placing Crown soda bottles in an upside down position were available for a number of years, where are the text references and pictures indicating that it was a common practice by bottlers? (I have spent hours on the Internet looking for text references as well as pictures of upside down Crown soda bottles and have yet to find a single one).

Lastly ...

1. Show me even one vintage picture of a Crown soda bottle placed upside down in a wood case and I will let this thread fade into oblivion.

2. What is it about the case pictured below that tells us whether it was made in 1906, 1926, or some other year?

Thanks again to all

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

What is it about the case pictured below that tells us whether it was made in 1906, 1926, or some other year?