Help with Hobbleskirt ID

[Ivybriana]

Here’s a few more pics of bottle seams etc. that I didn’t really capture very well previously.

 

[hemihampton]

with the case wear & rough condition looks like in circulation awhile & reused a few times. was this found in a dump? LEON.

 

[hemihampton]

Did some research & found something Interesting. At least for the Columbus Georgia Coca Cola Plant. After looking through hundreds of Coke Ads from the 19 teens I found late March 1917 Ads showing the Straight side Bottle. Then May 1917 ads showing the new contour hobbleskirt bottle. Kept looking for April ads figuring new bottle might be in ad. finally found 2 April ads but none showing the bottle which was odd since there was tons of bottles shown in other months in 1917. BUT, Then something really odd happened, after finding a late March ad showing a Straight sided bottle I then found a mid March ad showing the new contoured hobbleskirt Bottle. Anybody wanta see these ads? LEON.

 

[Ivybriana]

with the case wear & rough condition looks like in circulation awhile & reused a few times. was this found in a dump? LEON.

Yes, here in New Orleans. We have probably pulled 500 intact (and about 5000 broken) bottles out of the lot, been digging it off and on since last summer.

 

[hemihampton]

Are there any straight sided Cokes in there? Leon.

P.S. Does your Coke say anything on very bottom?

 

[Ivybriana]

Are there any straight sided Cokes in there? Leon.

P.S. Does your Coke say anything on very bottom?

nope, have only found one other coke bottle, which was a 1923 patent bottle. here's pics of bottom.

 

[Ivybriana]

Thoughts/questions I have as I have been educating myself about coke bottles & pondering the current situation.....

1. How many fluid oz do typical Hobbleskirt bottles have in them? I found two sources that listed that number as 6.5 Fl-Oz, however my bottle and the prototype in the auction photos both say 6 Fl-Oz.

2. Is it known what type of bottling was done (machine? mold?) by Graham Glass and when? If so, do the seams etc. on my bottle match up? (you may need to zoom in on pics I sent earlier to see seams well, but they are obvious once you do)

3. Mr. Porter says "Graham Glass Co. marks include a model number and the initial “L,”
“E,” or “O” – followed by a letter “S”(secondary?) or “P” (primary?) and sometimes followed by a third letter date code." If this algorithm always holds true, my bottle is missing a letter. In any of the other years [that are letter coded] it would be obvious which is missing, however my bottle theoretically could be coded 576E[P]P. It seems like the assumption is that the P here is the date code, but what if it's not?

 

[hemihampton]

As far as I know Cokes were all 6 oz's until 1958. in 58 switched to 6 1/2 oz's. I think the O is for the Oklahoma plant & those could be followed by a S or P.

 

[Ivybriana]

As far as I know Cokes were all 6 oz's until 1958. in 58 switched to 6 1/2 oz's. I think the O is for the Oklahoma plant & those could be followed by a S or P.

This article (pic) originally referenced by Bob above
As well as Coke themselves https://www.coca-colacompany.com/company/history/the-history-of-the-coca-cola-contour-bottle
both seems to say 6.5 well before 1958, although I swear I have seen others with 6 also.

 

[hemihampton]

all my older cokes from 1915,1923 & D-Patents say 6 oz's embossed right on the bottle, on opposite side of date, take a look at yours, should say 6 oz right on it. LEON.