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Here is a link to the picture, hope it works. I found this bottle in the woods. I know it's not old, I think there's a 73 on the bottom - maybe the year? But I'm wondering what this seal/mark is. I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know? Hope you can see it well enough. It actually came out clearer in the picture then what I can see in person.
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Stubby beer bottle and 73 sounds about right on the date, maybe Lowenbrau...
 

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Thanks for adding it as part of post. I'm on an iPhone and haven't figured that out yet. Thanks for your thoughts!
 

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Pretty remarkable. Just last week I found the exact same bottle in the woods while searching one of my favorite farm dump sites. It has the exact same logo (which I'll comment on), is a stubby probably 12 oz. bottle, and has the following markings on the bottom (where you want to look for more clues); bottle maker is indicated by KPP inside an oval, lets say at 12:00, the number 72 at 3:00, and the number 18 at 9:00. From my information, the KPP logo belongs to Kerr Glass Manufacturing Corporation. The number 18 is probably associated with KPP in some way (e.g. plant number), and the number 72 is probably the year.

I don't think the logo is Lowenbrau (take a look at their logo and is just doesn't match). But it is a play on the coat of arms of Bavaria; that contains 2 "standing Bavarian lions" facing each other and separated by a "crest" that has the letters CB inside, themselves separated by what looks like a barley stalk. Finally, there's a crown above the crest. I suspect the letters CB has something to do with the name of the beer, possibly the initials?

I found several beer makers with similar modified Bavaria coat of arms, but none fit exactly (I posted one here and in following posts). That being said, the beer could be of German/Bavarian origin, or some US makers (from Wisconsin?) that believe their beer is of that heritage. Canadian Ace Beer has an "interesting" story line that's worth reading (just Goggle the name and you'll get plenty of hits). Originally founded in 1893 as the Manhattan Brewing Co., it was "purchased" in 1919 by known mobster Johnny Torrio (just before prohibition hit, dah!). I can just hear the backroom chatter, "Yo, Johnny, I think wezz should get into this beer business so the G men can't touch us. Yuz know what I mean?" Maybe that sounds too much like south Philly. Shortly thereafter, Al Capone and his buddies got involved, changed the name of the company a few times, until they settled on Canadian Ace Beer in 1947. I thought because of the "CB" in the name, this brand could be a front runner. However, they closed the doors by 1968. And if your 1973 and my 1972 dating guesses are correct, the timing is wrong. Plus, I couldn't find a version of the Canadian Ace Beer logo that had CB in the crest. Bottom line, brewers of this stubby little bottle with the Bavarian-like coat of arms remains a mystery!


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Another brewer.



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And yet one more.



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Post Note: The proper name for the 2 standing lions facing each other in the bottle logo is "combatant lions". And the Bavarians don't hold the patent on this image. So I have to be careful in assuming the logo on the bottle suggests Bavarian roots, in one way or another. Cheers.
 

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AMChandler, if you don't mind my asking, what state are you from? I'm in North Carolina. I just want to see if our finding the same bottle is a regional thing, or more national. Could help. This logo has me totally stumped!
 

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