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This topic has been discussed in the past, but never resolved that I know of. It involves deciphering the date codes on soda bottles with a G.C. makers mark. I know what G.C. stands for, which is as follows ...
[*]G C (intertwined angularly designed letters, vertically arranged) Glass Containers, Inc. (1933-1983), later Glass Containers Corporation, main office in Fullerton, CA, with several glass plant locations. Bought up the Knox Glass Company plants in 1968. This particular mark is stated to have first been used in 1945 according to Toulouse, but may in fact date from somewhat earlier. Peterson (1968:49) indicates at least one variation of the GC trademark was used beginning in 1933. Several variations of the "G C" mark exist, including one with the letters rounded (not angular), and another one with the letters touching, or nearly so. [/align]
... but what I don't know is how to read their earlier codes. I say "earlier" codes because later on (sometime in the mid 1940s) they apparently switched to double-digit dates, which are easy to read and self explanatory.
At the end of this first page I will attach a scanned image from Julian Toulouse's 1972 edition book titled "Bottle Makers And Their Marks" which has some additional information related to the "G.C. Company." Additional pages that follow this one will contain pictures of the bases of some of the C.G. bottles I have in my collection, all of which are ACLs.
Mainly what I'm hoping to find is someone who understands and/or has a really good idea as to how to read C.G. date codes. I have discussed this with numerous experts, but even they admit being baffled. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the numbers. But surely they mean "something." I'm "pretty sure" all of the acls in question are pre-1940ish. This is based on bottler histories, etc. And if you already know or break their code, then you will be the first person I know of who has been able to do it. Anything you have to contribute would benifit me personally, as well as quite a few other collectors I know.
Here are examples of some of the code numbers in question ...
1. 3383 ... "30 Below" acl.
2. 3357 ... "Gazoga" acl.
3. 5384 ... Unknown acl.
4. 5433 ... (Later double-digit code) on a 1947 Pepsi Cola acl.
Thanks in advance for your time and interest. Let's break this code together and put an end to the confusion once and for all. Any and all comments/guesses are welcomed.
Gracias' [
]
Sodapopbob
[ From Toulouse's 1972 Book ]
Note: If you happen to be viewing this thread "Live," please allow me time to post appx 4 pages before commenting. Thanks! (If I could learn how to attach multiple images per page, then I wouldn't have to make this request).
This topic has been discussed in the past, but never resolved that I know of. It involves deciphering the date codes on soda bottles with a G.C. makers mark. I know what G.C. stands for, which is as follows ...
[*]G C (intertwined angularly designed letters, vertically arranged) Glass Containers, Inc. (1933-1983), later Glass Containers Corporation, main office in Fullerton, CA, with several glass plant locations. Bought up the Knox Glass Company plants in 1968. This particular mark is stated to have first been used in 1945 according to Toulouse, but may in fact date from somewhat earlier. Peterson (1968:49) indicates at least one variation of the GC trademark was used beginning in 1933. Several variations of the "G C" mark exist, including one with the letters rounded (not angular), and another one with the letters touching, or nearly so. [/align]
... but what I don't know is how to read their earlier codes. I say "earlier" codes because later on (sometime in the mid 1940s) they apparently switched to double-digit dates, which are easy to read and self explanatory.
At the end of this first page I will attach a scanned image from Julian Toulouse's 1972 edition book titled "Bottle Makers And Their Marks" which has some additional information related to the "G.C. Company." Additional pages that follow this one will contain pictures of the bases of some of the C.G. bottles I have in my collection, all of which are ACLs.
Mainly what I'm hoping to find is someone who understands and/or has a really good idea as to how to read C.G. date codes. I have discussed this with numerous experts, but even they admit being baffled. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the numbers. But surely they mean "something." I'm "pretty sure" all of the acls in question are pre-1940ish. This is based on bottler histories, etc. And if you already know or break their code, then you will be the first person I know of who has been able to do it. Anything you have to contribute would benifit me personally, as well as quite a few other collectors I know.
Here are examples of some of the code numbers in question ...
1. 3383 ... "30 Below" acl.
2. 3357 ... "Gazoga" acl.
3. 5384 ... Unknown acl.
4. 5433 ... (Later double-digit code) on a 1947 Pepsi Cola acl.
Thanks in advance for your time and interest. Let's break this code together and put an end to the confusion once and for all. Any and all comments/guesses are welcomed.
Gracias' [
]Sodapopbob
[ From Toulouse's 1972 Book ]
