Need help with value of ACL bottles I found

[SODAPOPBOB]

~ BARRELHEAD ROOT BEER POSSIBLE TIMELINE ~

(Inconclusive / Conflicting Dates / Subject to Revision)

1970 ... Earliest use of words "Barrelhead Root Beer" in commerce or anywhere
1970 ... First trademark depicting Canada Dry label ~ Filed May 5, 1970
1972 ... First trademark depicting Canada Dry label ~ Registered March 28, 1972
1974 ... 10 Ounce ACL bottle ~ Mug label ~ According to Chris Weide ~ Unconfirmed
1975 ... Newspaper ad shows what appears to be a 16 Ounce paper label bottle with Mug image
1976 ... Second trademark depicting Mug label ~ Filed April 27, 1976
1976 ... 16 Ounce ACL bottle ~ Canada Dry label ~ Glenshaw Glass ~ Member BullGill ~ Only known example1976 ... Possible year for introduction of the first ACL bottle
1977 ... Second trademark depicting Mug label ~ Registered July 5, 1977
1977 ... Numerous 16 Ounce ACL bottles confirmed to exist that have Mug label1981 ... Latest reference for standard 16 Ounce bottle 1982 ... Ads mention 2-Liter plastic bottles and 12 Ounce cans 1983 to 2000 ... Hit-and-miss advertising with no ads for some years, especially after 19902001 ... Latest reference ~ 8 Pack of 16 Ounce bottles advertised ~ But unknown if ACL or paper label

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

2002 to 2015~Nothing found

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

BullGill: As near as I can determine, the lifetime of the 16 Ounce ACL bottle appears to have been between ... 1976 and 1981

 

[lblackvelvet]

Hello Sodapopbob, I found a site that says that on April 27, 1976 U.S. Federal Trademark Registration was filed for Barrel Head root beer by Canada Dry Corp. I also found that you can still buy this product that is sold by Dr. Pepper/ Snapple Corp. today at certain stores. I couldn't find the certain stores ? I have a paper label Rooti brand root beer sold by Canada Dry. I also read that R.J, Reynolds was involved with Barrel Head root beer.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Narrowing things down ... As it turns out, Norton Simon bought the entire Canada Dry Company in 1964. The 1979 date was merely when he bought the Canada Dry bottling facility in New York. So this tells us that Thorco Inc. was only a distributor of Barrelhead Root Beer but did not own it outright - it was owned by Norton Simon Inc. Here is a timeline for Canada Dry according to Wikipedia (Which I found confirmation of on other websites). Norton Simon took an interest in the company [Canada Dry] in 1964, and it merged with Simon's other holdings, the McCall Corporation and Hunt Foods, to form Norton Simon Inc. Dr. Pepper bought Canada Dry from Norton Simon in 1982. In 1984, Dr. Pepper was acquired by Forstmann Little & Company, and Canada Dry was sold to R. J. Reynolds' Del Monte Foods unit to pay off acquisition debt. RJR Nabisco sold its soft drink business to Cadbury Schweppes in 1986. Today, Canada Dry is owned by Dr. Pepper Snapple Group, which was spun off from Cadbury Schweppes in 2008.


(To be continued)

Kevin: Your observations tie in with the above that I found on Wikipedia. I've seen numerous references for Rooti Root Beer by Canada Dry, but until you mentioned it never considered it as a possible spin-off of Barrelhead. Please let us know if you find a source to purchase Barrelhead. I looked around but could not find one. Thanks, Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

BullGill: Until something presents itself to refute it, I am currently of the opinion that your 1976 ACL is ... The first ACL Barrelhead Root Beer bottle ever produced

 

[lblackvelvet]

Hey Sodapopbob, I see in 2008 a Barrel Head Root Beer bottle was sold on Worthpoint site. It was dated 1970. It did not have the Canada Dry label on the front.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Kevin: I saw that so called 1970 bottle, but I have serious doubts about it actually being a 1970. There is no picture of the base. I honestly think the seller meant "1970s" Barrelhead bottle. Here's the link ... http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1970-barrelhead-root-beer-pop-bottle-full-cap-10

 

[BullGill]

Hey Sodapopbob, I see in 2008 a Barrel Head Root Beer bottle was sold on Worthpoint site. It was dated 1970. It did not have the Canada Dry label on the front.

If this is the example you mentioned, this is clearly incorrect information. This bottle is a later one, not 1970.http://www.worthpoint.com...pop-bottle-full-cap-10

 

[BullGill]

BullGill: Until something presents itself to refute it, I am currently of the opinion that your 1976 ACL is ... The first ACL Barrelhead Root Beer bottle ever produced

This would mean that you are calling Chris possibly wrong about the 1974 bottle?I guess it is possible.