Need help with value of ACL bottles I found

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. These days I don't consider any date confirmed unless I see a picture of the base markings!

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

For example, here's a 10 Ounce Barrelhead I'm currently studying. I haven't been able to make out the base markings yet but hope to eventually. The accompanying description did not give a specific date. If someone can enlarge the last picture and make it legible, please do so because I'm having problems with it.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

In case you're wondering about the green tint to the Barrelhead bottle, I wondered the same thing. But when you look at the bottles from the top, you can see there is a slight greenish tint to the Barrelhead. But regardless of that, I still can't make out the marks. Here's the link ... http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/bottles-10-oz-soda-pop-vess-dr-pepper-460124635

 

[BullGill]

 

[BullGill]

It is the bottles around it that are casting green light onto the Barrelhead.

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

BullGill: Mucho gracias for the enlargement. However, I had similar results in that I turned a small blurry image into a larger blurry image. As much as I'd like to say I see some definitive numbers, the truth is I don't, at least not with the majority of them. As to what appears to be a 0 to the right of what appears to be a 7, because the 0 is so far removed from the 7, I truly do not think that's a 70 for 1970. Based on what I know about similar bottle marks, if there is a date code in the sequence, I'd say its in the center of the group. Please know I am not trying to be obstinate, and should Chris Weide or anyone else produce the image of a 1975 or earlier date code for a Barrelhead bottle of any size such as a 10 Ounce, 12 Ounce, or 16 Ounce, I would welcome that information. But as it stands now, I simply cannot find and have not seen a clear image of the base marks on a Barrelhead bottle any earlier than your 1976. I did some photo editing to your image, and the following is the best I could come up with, but its still total guesswork as to what the numbers actually are. Thanks again, Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Sometimes our eyes play tricks on us. Especially when it involves blurry pictures ...
[Links]

1. WorthPoint 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/bottles-10-oz-soda-pop-vess-dr-pepper-460124635


2. eBay 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BARRELHEAD-ROOT-BEER-ACL-Soda-Bottle-1977-/290578542201?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

[Attachments]

1. WorthPoint 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL Base

2. eBay 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL Base

Note: G 20482 is an Owens-Illinois style code ~ The Owens-Illinois symbol in the 1970s was an I-in-a-circle (I)

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

[Attachments]

1. WorthPoint 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL Base

2. eBay 10 Ounce Barrelhead ACL Base

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

These two 7up bottles will establish that these particular styles and sizes, which are the same style and size as some of the Barrelhead's we've seen, were available at least as early as 1969-1972. Of course this doesn't confirm that Barrelhead was producing ACLs that early, but at least we know the style/shape/size was available during those years ... 1. 10 Ounce 7up ~ G 20482 (I) 69 ~ Owens-Illinois ~ 19692. 16 Ounce 7up ~ [G] 72 14-1622 ~ Glenshaw Glass Company ~ 1972

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

BullGill: I realize I said I was calling it quits, but because one clue leads to another, I keep getting drawn back into it. I also realize that newspaper ads are not always the best resource for confirming dates. And yet, even with that said, after looking at hundreds of Barrelhead Root Beer ads, it seems more than coincidence that the earliest image of a bottle like yours first appears in the 1977 ads. And when I say a bottle like yours, I mean 16 Ounce ACLs that have the word [font="impact,chicago"]DRAFT [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]on the neck, which are different than the paper label variety that have the mug image on the neck label. In other words, every ad I've seen so far prior to 1977 for a 16 Ounce bottle shows a paper label. Whereas, starting in 1977, the ads start showing ACL bottles with the word [font="impact,chicago"]DRAFT [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]on the neck. Now, I'm not suggesting the first 16 Ounce ACL was introduced in 1977, because we already know your 16 Ounce ACL is from 1976. But what I am suggesting is, it took until 1977 for the ads to catch up to the bottles that were produced in 1976. [/font][/font][/font][/font] [font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]Anyhoo, here's the earliest image I can find showing a 16 Ounce ACL bottle with the word [font="impact,chicago"]DRAFT [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]on the neck. And for comparison is a 1975 ad showing a paper label on the neck with the mug image [/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font] [font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]From ...[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font] [font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]1. The Logan Daily News ~ Logan, Ohio ~ October 31, 1977 ~ [font="impact,chicago"]DRAFT [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]on neck[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]2. Your bottle ~ [font="impact,chicago"]DRAFT [font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]on neck[/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][/font][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]3. The Post-Crescent ~ Appleton, Wisconsin ~ December 2, 1975 ~ Paper label with mug image[/font][/font][/font][/font] [font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"]Note: The jury is still out on the possible 1974 10 Ounce ACL ~ But I'm confident the first 16 Ounce ACL was made in 1976 [/font][/font][/font][/font][font="impact,chicago"][font="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"] [/font][/font]