Question about BIM bottles

[BobbyCommonBottles]

My question is do all BIM's have tooled lips? I know there are applied lips and tooled.....I ask because some BIM bottles lips look not tooled to me and I just never asked anyone. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[botlguy]

No. Some have what is called a "Burst Top", others a "Sheared Mouth". Even "Applied Collar" or "Applied Lip" bottles are tooled to get a smooth finish with a uniform diameter opening / mouth. The Gaffer used a tool to create the desired "Finish" or last step of production. That's the simple answer, others will have more. Jim

 

[BobbyCommonBottles]

So there weren't any bottles that were simply blown in the mold, and then just taken out? (Besides burst tops and applied lip/collar)

 

[botlguy]

So there weren't any bottles that were simply blown in the mold, and then just taken out? (Besides burst tops and applied lip/collar)

If they were mouth blown, by a human that is, they were attached to a "Punty" rod / Blow Pipe and would have to be removed from it by either shearing or touched by a drop of water to cause a fracture in the pipe at the appropriate spot. Then they would be put back into the heat to smooth the rough edge or have the lip finished by tooling, with or without an applied glob of glass, or left to cool as-is and the lip ground. If you look at a "Burst Top" such as many British bottles, inks for example, you will see the closest thing to just "Blow and Go", no real lip finish at all. This is a bit difficult to describe without pictures or bottles in hand, there are online sources to answer these questions although I enjoy / like to try. I'll keep going if you want. Jim

 

[BobbyCommonBottles]

Thanks for the time to answer....the reason I ask is I have some bottles that are definitely Blow in mold.....(the seams end before the lip) and the collar or lip look very even as if never touched with a tool. For example....this Hay's Hair Health Bottl

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[BobbyCommonBottles]

would this bottle have a tooled collar then? I've never heard that term....I've only heard tooled lip. Lip is the top part and collar is the bottom half of the finish. What would this be considered? Tooled lip or tooled collar?

 

[sunrunner]

you are confused , the lip and the collar are one in the same. the tool would have finished all at the same time. there would be like a three pronged fork the middle would go in the nick and the outer part which had the contours of the lip and collar would be on the out side it would go over the nick clamped down the bottle would be turned the lip formed.

 

[BobbyCommonBottles]

I thought the collar was the lower part of the "lip" and the lip was the upper part.......

 

[BobbyCommonBottles]

See what I mean? The collar is the part that touches the neck. Some bottles don't have a collar right? In that case they would just have a lip? In that diagram it shows the lip and the collar as two different parts and they both make up the "finish"

 

[BobbyCommonBottles]

http://www.sha.org/bottle/morphology.htmaccording to this link....there are a couple ways to use the term collar.....some use it as the lower part below the lip on a 2 part finish...and some refer to it as the whole finish when it is composed of one part....Check out how the link defines "finish"