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Jeff: Ever since your post two weeks ago about the reporter who sketched the prototype bottle and how the bottle itself turned up missing, I have been doing some investigating with the hope of determining who that reporter might have been. Even though I have not found a reporter yet who fits the timeframe, it's possible that likely candidates will eventually be found by examining Terre Haute, Indiana directories from 1916. Unfortunately, I cannot find an online directory for Terre Haute from 1916, but I did discover that such directories exist, but are archived in various libraries and can only be examined by visiting the library personally. The following link is to a 1916 Atlanta, Georgia directory and will serve as an example of how such directories work. If a directory like this one can be found from 1916 for Terre Haute (which is where the Root Glass Company was located), it might provide us with the names of various reporters who worked in Terre Haute during 1916 and possibly even give us a clue as to who the reporter was that did the sketch. https://archive.org/stream/atlantacitydirec1916atla#page/64/mode/2up Like I said, I'm just using this particular directory as an example. But as it turns out, I found something interesting in it. After opening the link you will see a search box in the upper right corner. I typed the word "Reporter" in the search box and it generated numerous listings under that heading, one of which was the name Britt Craig who was one of several reporters working for the Atlanta Constitution newspaper in 1916. The interesting thing about Britt Craig is, it shows his residence as being in the Ansley Hotel. For those who might have forgotten, it was at the Ansley Hotel where the first of two Coca Cola conventions was held in January of 1916 - with the first convention being held at the Ansley on January 3rd through the 5th, and the second convention being held at the Piedmont Hotel on January 19th and 20th. Of course this doesn't prove Britt Craig was the reporter who covered the first convention, but because he lived at the Ansley Hotel at the time, he was surely aware of the convention taking place. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, if a 1916 Terre Haute, Indiana directory can be found and examined, it might include the names of various reporters at the time and provide us with a list of names to work with for future reference, one of which that just might turn out to be the reporter who made the sketch and possibly snatched the so called "third" prototype bottle. [ Attachments ] 1. Cover of 1916 Atlanta, Georgia directory2. Page from Directory ~ (See red arrows) ~ Craig, H. Brith, reporter, Constitution, r , Ansley Hotel Note: 'Brith' is a typo for 'Britt' ~ 'r' stands for 'Residence'3. Cropped listing from page
 

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More ... 1. Coca Cola article from ... The Atlanta Constitution ~ Atlanta, Georgia ~ January 3, 1916 2. Picture of Britt Craig from ... The Atlanta Constitution ~ Atlanta, Georgia ~ April 2, 1916
 

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P.S. To be continued with a segment involving the concept sketch(s)
 

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Before continuing with the concept sketch(s) segment I mentioned, I wanted to share these links about the 100th anniversary event at the High Museum in Atlanta. The attached picture is from the last link and shows how the prototype bottle is being displayed during the exhibit. It would be interesting to know what the other bottle is that's displayed in the background - it appears to be taller and slimmer than a typical contour bottle.
http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2015/03/08/Coca-Cola-marks-100-years-of-soda-s-iconic-glass-bottle.html


http://www.bevnet.com/news/2015/coca-cola-kicks-off-campaign-to-celebrate-the-centennial-of-its-iconic-bottle


http://www.independentmail.com/news/coca-cola-bottle-as-art-atlantas-high-museum-takes-a-look
 

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Jeff: As you know, I have a signed copy of your dad's book "The Man Behind The Bottle" which was published in 2010 and details the creation of your grandfather's classic Coca Cola contour bottle. Even though I have read the book twice, I rarely handle it and keep it safely tucked away in order to keep it in mint condition. That is I don't handle it unless I have reason to reference it, which I did today. On page 36 is a black & white image of your grandfather's original concept sketch and below that image the caption says ... Dean's original 1915 drawing of the prototype Coke bottle from which he cut the mold that produced the prototype bottle. The other half of this drawing was sent to the U.S. Patent Office in August, 1915, when the first patent was applied for. The reason I mention this is to draw attention to the part where it says the other half of the drawing was sent to the U.S. Patent office. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was you who informed us the drawing that was sent to the patent office was either destroyed or mysteriously disappeared somewhere along the line. But regardless of where I heard that and whether its true or not about the patent drawing disappearing, it makes me wonder about the image pictured in Cecil Munsey's book "The Illustrated Guide To The Collectibles Of Coca Cola" which was first published in 1972. On Page 71 of that book is the image I scanned and attached below. Notice the part of the Munsey caption where it says ... (Archives, The Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia) (Reminder; the Munsey book was published in 1972) Questions: 1. Do you think the image shown in Munsey's book is an original drawing from 1915? 2. Was it possibly drawn by someone at Coca Cola in 1972? 3. If original, where did it come from? 4. If original, how did the Coca Cola Company end up with it? 5. Is it possibly the "other half" that was sent to the U.S. Patent office? 6. Anything else you know about it or can speculate on? [ Attachments ] 1. Original 1915 Dean concept sketch2. Image with caption scanned from Cecil Munsey's 1972 book
 

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P.S. Surely the 1913 date in the Cecil Munsey book is a typo. Everyone knows that Earl R. Dean created the bottle in 1915 and not 1913.
 

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High Museum ~ Atlanta, Georgia ~ 2015 1. Prototype Bottle ~ Card shows owner as The Root Family 2. Concept Sketch ~ Card shows owner as The Coca Cola Company
 

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SODAPOPBOB said:
I jotted down the bidder's numbers, which were ...

Sketch: Bidder #816
Bottle: Bidder #815

Because of the number's closeness, I suspect they "might" be by the same bidder. But I'm not sure because I don't know how the registration, issuence of the numbers worked. In any event, I'm sure it won't be the last we ever see and/or hear regarding the sketch and bottle. No doubt they will resurface again "one of these days" ...

... I hope! [;)]

From December 17, 2011
 

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All I can say is - that with over 2,000 glass items in my collection - i didn't put any thing more that 300 in any one of them. And that was for a rare glass parade cane with a cork finish. That is a hard type to find, because when the parade was over they drank the whiskey and threw the canes against a building. Reality made me more conservative. RED M..
 

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SODAPOPBOB said:
Jeff: As you know, I have a signed copy of your dad's book "The Man Behind The Bottle" which was published in 2010 and details the creation of your grandfather's classic Coca Cola contour bottle. Even though I have read the book twice, I rarely handle it and keep it safely tucked away in order to keep it in mint condition. That is I don't handle it unless I have reason to reference it, which I did today. On page 36 is a black & white image of your grandfather's original concept sketch and below that image the caption says ... Dean's original 1915 drawing of the prototype Coke bottle from which he cut the mold that produced the prototype bottle. The other half of this drawing was sent to the U.S. Patent Office in August, 1915, when the first patent was applied for. The reason I mention this is to draw attention to the part where it says the other half of the drawing was sent to the U.S. Patent office. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was you who informed us the drawing that was sent to the patent office was either destroyed or mysteriously disappeared somewhere along the line. But regardless of where I heard that and whether its true or not about the patent drawing disappearing, it makes me wonder about the image pictured in Cecil Munsey's book "The Illustrated Guide To The Collectibles Of Coca Cola" which was first published in 1972. On Page 71 of that book is the image I scanned and attached below. Notice the part of the Munsey caption where it says ... (Archives, The Coca-Cola Company, Atlanta, Georgia) (Reminder; the Munsey book was published in 1972) Questions: 1. Do you think the image shown in Munsey's book is an original drawing from 1915? 2. Was it possibly drawn by someone at Coca Cola in 1972? 3. If original, where did it come from? 4. If original, how did the Coca Cola Company end up with it? 5. Is it possibly the "other half" that was sent to the U.S. Patent office? 6. Anything else you know about it or can speculate on.
In answer to my own question, the drawing in Cecil Munsey's 1972 book appears to have come from the original 1915 patent drawing. However, if you do a close examination of Munsey's drawing to the patent drawing, you will notice they are very, very similar but not identical. So even though the Munsey drawing says it came from the Coca Cola archives, I'm still not sure exactly what it was taken from. It doesn't appear to be an actual photocopy of the original. 1. Original patent drawing (1)2. Munsey drawing3. Original patent drawing (2) For those who have not tried it, after clicking on and opening any one of the attached images, if you place you cursor arrow over the opened image and then gently roll your mouse-wheel, the images will automatically go back and forth from one to the other. That way you can do what I call a "flicker" comparison with the details.
 

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