- Oct 6, 2006
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Remember, just because the automatic bottle machine was invented in 1903 does not mean that everyone was using one in 1904. It's the same as how the laptop was introduced in 1982, but how many people do you know who were using laptops (let alone any sort of personal computer) in the early 80s? ABM bottles gradually replaced BIM bottles throughout the 1900s-1920s in North America as factories upgraded their equipment, and in the UK it took even longer - I'm not sure if they had even fully stopped making BIM bottles by WWII.Hi "Jack" - if bottles you find have 2 mold seams from the bottom, that go to the top, and if the seams stop before the lip/top they are 99% chance of being pre-1903 bottles because the automatic bottle machine was invented in 1903, and 99% of bottles after that had mold seams that go through the lips to the very top. Before 1903 bottles had hand-appplied lips, placed separately on a blown-in-mold bottle. Thus, the mold seam does NOT go into the lips. The automatic bottle machines blew the bottle and formed the top in one mold - nothing hand-applied - and thus the seams go through the lips. You can also look up the names embossed on your bottles to see when companies existed. There are other ways of finding approximate dates of bottles, like if it's a 3-piece mold seamed bottle, or turn-mold bottle, or free-blown, open pontiled; or graphite pontiled, etc. However what I told you above is the very basic way most of us collectors first learned regarding how to date our bottles.
That's a Benedictine bottle, it's an herbal liqueur from France introduced in the mid-19th century. Yours probably dates to around 1890-1920ish, these changed so little over the years that it's hard to tell, but tooled lip bottles like that weren't used before the latter part of the 19th century. Anything from the 18th century is going to be very crude, usually blown without using a mold at all, and it'll be much harder to find any intact glass that old. Most of what you find while exploring the countryside isn't going to be much older than the 1870s or so when the use of disposable bottles started greatly increasing.Hi again folks. Some more nice finds at the tip! I got back down to the tip on my lunch break and had a surface look for some old pottery so I can go home and research to find an age. So, I collected some of the nicest samples and made my way back to the school. I noticed old looking glass along the ditches on the way back, so I hopped down and dig a few out. Sadly most were broken, but there was one complete bottle. Bearing in mind this is not too far from the tip, but all these old lanes are full of old relics in the ditches. Anyways, I’ll put some pics at the bottom for you more experienced bottlers to investigate, but I’m guessing very late 1700’s to mid 1800’s? Any ideas or suggestions of age and value would be nice, and thought I’d add that there is some sort of horse shoe embodiment on the front of the bottle!
Thanks in advance,