Just a thought.

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

I was thinking the other day about all the bottles we as diggers find. Always bringing more to the surface. Value is determined by more than supply and demand I realize, but everytime another rare bottle surfaces does it decrease the value of the ones in collections already? Are we in a sense, shooting ourselves in the foot with every bottle we uncover? Especially one of a kind. Just a thought. What do you think?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

Did you ever read that story on the paddle steamboat they dug up in the Mississippi flood plain that was stoked with still corked and full of contents bottles, some rare scroll flasks, that probably killed some prices.

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

Did you ever read that story on the paddle steamboat they dug up in the Mississippi flood plain that was stoked with still corked and full of contents bottles, some rare scroll flasks, that probably killed some prices.

No I did not. Did the boat have a name? I will do a search and try to read about it. Funny you mention the paddleboat. I saw a nice one on the Hudson River. It was in one of the marina. Now I wish I took a picture. Oh well, now where were we? Oh yeah, I believe that find would decrease the values some what but how much. If I have a one of a kind bottle valued at say, $800.00 and another is found. How much would the value drop?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

 

[Jamdam]

There are only a finite number of out of production bottles. Many are still left to be found but the number is fixed. Bottles break, even those that have been found. Demand will continue to exceed supply for older and rarer bottles. Temporary finds will depress some unique examples but over time, diminishing supply will always lead to increased prices.

 

[nhpharm]

That was the Arabia, but those bottles (except a few I heard "walked") ended up in a museum, so can't imagine that impacted prices much.

I think rarely is there a find of rare bottles large enough to really impact the going price for things. Locally, you may dig enough of a rare local bottle to exceed local interest, but for any of the more nationally collected bottles, I don't think there would be an impact. I really feel that digging keeps the hobby alive, especially locally. People always want to hear about and see stuff that is fresh to the market rather than the same bottles that have circulated amongst collections for the last 50 years. It gives people hope that they might be able to acquire something that historically all the examples have been collection-locked.

 

[yacorie]

It’s the same with any collectible and the market. New finds of coins always impact the value of others in that date/grade. I would imagine bottles are the same thing ans there have definitely been finds of bottled and cans that have impacted prices of the pieces already known.

honestly - I don’t believe the “only one known” type of hype no matter what anyone says. Reason is - there are so many people out there that don’t collect bottles or any other collectible but simply have them in their families and that’s the end of it.

look at all the early New England glass (pitchers, cups, sugar etc) - I’d guarantee there is a lot more out there sitting in China hutches or attics that people have just had in their family. The same goes for bottles.

imo - unless there is documentation from a manufacturer of a set number of pieces created - the unique one or a kind stuff is just hype by the owner and/or seller.

 

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

No I did not. Did the boat have a name? I will do a search and try to read about it. Funny you mention the paddleboat. I saw a nice one on the Hudson River. It was in one of the marina. Now I wish I took a picture. Oh well, now where were we? Oh yeah, I believe that find would decrease the values some what but how much. If I have a one of a kind bottle valued at say, $800.00 and another is found. How much would the value drop?
ROBBYBOBBY64.

I think it was the Arabia-I can't find the content on the scrolls but there are other bottles besides those-very interesting read.

 

[yacorie]

Here you go

Looking for Bottles Carried on the Steamboat Arabia | Peachridge Glass

www.peachridgeglass.com

 

[Bottle 2 Rocks]

It’s the same with any collectible and the market. New finds of coins always impact the value of others in that date/grade. I would imagine bottles are the same thing ans there have definitely been finds of bottled and cans that have impacted prices of the pieces already known.

honestly - I don’t believe the “only one known” type of hype no matter what anyone says. Reason is - there are so many people out there that don’t collect bottles or any other collectible but simply have them in their families and that’s the end of it.

look at all the early New England glass (pitchers, cups, sugar etc) - I’d guarantee there is a lot more out there sitting in China hutches or attics that people have just had in their family. The same goes for bottles.

imo - unless there is documentation from a manufacturer of a set number of pieces created - the unique one or a kind stuff is just hype by the owner and/or seller.

Yes I believe the part about non collectors just keeping stuff buried in their closets. Had a non collecting friend that received a gift of a bottle from another non collector ( I know weird right). My friend Al showed this bottle to me because he knew I was a collector. My eyes popped out of my head, it was a cornflower blue petal wax sealer fruit jar with an iron pontil. I don't know much about fruit jars but I knew it was something special so I checked into it and got a round about price of 500-850 (1980's prices) Took it to the Baltimore show in Timonium showed it around and sold it for him. $650, probably should have waited for an auction setting but Al was thrilled with the sale price.

 

[ROBBYBOBBY64]

Here you go

Looking for Bottles Carried on the Steamboat Arabia | Peachridge Glass

www.peachridgeglass.com

Your awesome yacorie! Thanks for the link.
ROBBYBOBBY64.