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bop ~

Thanks for the information.

"It never rains but when it does it pours"

Meaning ...

Ibv ~

That's the one!

Please tell us ...

1. All the embossing's - Makers Marks ~ Symbols ~ Numbers ~ Letters ~ Codes
2. Is it for sale?
3. If so, please describe condition.

Gracias' Amigos [sm=thumbup.gif]

Bob
 

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Hi Bob, Here is some info.

7 oz. clear bottle
Pyramid Beverages Inc.
Lasting Quality
All flavors
Newport News, Va.
Pat. Applied for
Heel- 4131 E / G 29
A few tiny flea bites / Very little case wear
I would say the bottle is in very good condition/ I can try to take some better pic's if you want me too?
 

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Hi Bob, Here is another bottle that has some similar markings to one of the other drawings you posted.

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Ibv ~

Thanks for the information. The pyramid bottle was designed by Otis K. Brown and made by the Graham Glass Company in 1929. Based on your picture it looks to be in great shape. Please PM me if your are interested in selling it and for how much?

https://www.google.com/patents/USD79178?pg=PA1&dq=79178+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iLT1UYjnPJHe8ASr94HoAg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=79178%20bottle&f=false

Thanks

Bob

~ * ~

I'm still doing research on various aspects of deco soda bottles, starting with this timeline I put together based on the bottle patents from Digger Odell's website. I realize the count does include every bottle ever patented in that period, but it gives us a pretty good idea of the highs and lows with the peak in 1925.

(To be continued)


1915 = 1
1916 = 3
1917 = 2
1918 = 1 ... WWI Ends
1919 = 0
1920 = 4 ... Prohibition Begins
1921 = 4
1922 = 4 ... King Tut's Tomb Discovered (11 year project to 1933)
1923 = 16
1924 = 26
1925 = 58 . Paris Exposition
1926 = 50
1927 = 28
1929 = 21 . Great Depression Begins
1930 = 6
1931 = 4
1932 = 7
1933 = 1 ... Prohibition Ends
1934 = 2
1935 = 4
1936 = 2 ... Great Depression Ends
1937 = 2
1938 = 2
1939 = 4
1940 = 4
1941 = 0 ... WWII Begins
1942 = 1
1943 = 0
1944 = 1
1945 = 0 ... WWII Ends
1946 = 1
1947 = 0
1948 = 0
1949 = 1
 

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(Continued)

Please Note: This is an examination only and not a definitive conclusion

I am still primarily focused on ...

1. Early Deco Soda Bottle Designs.
2. When, who, and what influenced them?

Note: The Paris Exposition, said to be the birthplace of Deco, opened in April of 1925 and closed in October of 1925.

Using Digger Odell's Deco Bottle website again, I came up with the following ...

Of the approximately 58 bottle designs patented in 1925 (Peak period) ...

47 of them were "filed prior to April," which is when the Paris Exposition opened. And 16 of those were filed sometime in late 1924.

(I haven't overlooked the fact that 50 designs were patented in 1926. I am merely focusing on the majority rule).

Design patents filed sometime in 1924 = 16

Design patents filed in 1925:

January = 12
February = 12
March = 7
April = 7 ... Paris Exposition Opens
May = 4
June = 2
July = 0
August = 0
September = 1
October = 3 ... Paris Exposition Closes
November = 0
December = 0

Designs patented in 1925:

January = 1
February = 1
March = 4
April = 5 ... Paris Exposition Opens
May = 18
June = 11
July = 1
August = 2
September = 1
October = 2 ... Paris Exposition Closes
November = 2
December = 5

Additionally ...

Paris Exposition: April to October of 1925.

The United States did not attend!

http://xrl.us/bpjnko

"Germany and the USA were notable absentees. Germany, as the main aggressor in the First World War and the greatest threat to French supremacy in the decorative arts, was sent an invitation too late to organize a major display. The USA declined to participate on the grounds that 'there was no modern design in America'."

http://www.answers.com/topic/paris-exposition-des-arts-d-coratifs-et-industriels-modernes

The Paris Exposition was proposed as early as 1914 but postponed due to the outbreak of WWI.

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Based on my current observations, its starting to appear as if the Paris Exposition had very little influence on deco soda bottles in the United States. Its also starting to look as if whatever influenced the deco soda bottle trend in the United States seemed to have happened almost overnight. Notice there were only about 19 patents between about 1915 and 1922. And then between about 1923 and 1926 the trend seems to have exploded, and starting to taper off again in about 1927.

(To be continued)

Bob
 

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P.S ~

The following two pictures are a glimpse into upcoming examinations I plan on doing ...

The Chrysler building in New York city ... claimed by many to be one of the most iconic symbols of the deco era in the United States.

Groundbreaking in 1928 ~ Completion in 1930






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Original Lobby / Elevator (one of eight) in the Chrysler building ...








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Hello Bob, Here is another picture of the bottle taken outside. Thanks , Kevin...

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Kevin ~

Thanks for the great pictures. I am interested in purchasing the bottle if available.

Bob

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(Continued)

It was during the course of my research on deco soda bottles of the 1920s, with the number one question being; "Where did the designers get their inspiration?" that it dawned on me how artist and designers of that era did not have the Internet as we do today but rather had to rely on other sources for their various influences. So with this in mind I flashed back to the 1920s and took a look around to see what some of those other sources might have been and came up with the following ...

1. Association with other artist, designers, and art institutions.
2. Books, newspapers, magazines and various journals.
3. Museums and libraries.
4. Radio
5. Silent movies and newsreels. (The first "Talkie" was in 1927).
6. Fashion.
7. Architecture.
8. Study of previously produced art and works of other artist and designers.
9. Etc.

But definitely nothing like the information we have available at our fingertips today, including television and the Internet!

So with this said, where did bottle designer George N. Mas of Lynchburg, Virginia get his inspiration for bottle patent number 65,590 pictured below that was filed on June 29, 1923 and patented on September 9, 1924? By the way, George N. Mas is described on Digger Odell's site as ...

"Among the more prominent of the 1920s [designers]."

Even though I personally see a distinct similarity between Mas' design and the upper portion of the Chrysler building, the bottle design proceeded the Chrysler building by about five years. But then again, perhaps there is no similarity between the two at all and Mas' design is nothing more than that of drooping drapery. After all, the design on Mas' bottle curves downwards whereas the design on the upper portion of the Chrysler building curves upwards.

Speaking of the Chrysler building again, the upper exterior portion has been described as ...

"The most magical skyscraper, however, must be the Chrysler Building (1930) in Manhattan. With an internal steel skeleton, it is still the tallest brick building in the world. The lobbies, stairways and elevators are masterpieces of craftsmanship, with Egyptian motifs stylized in colored marbles, inlaid brass and exotic woods. The top exterior is an interpretation of the classic Egyptian inspired Art Deco theme of the sun and its dispersing rays."

"From street level to the tip of its spire, the Chrysler building is an exuberant expression of the art deco style. The fanciful crown is a pyramidal succession of arcs and triangular windows decked in stainless steel that shines brilliantly in the sun."

Bob

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Bottle Patent 65,590 ~ F 1923- P 1924 ~ George N. Mas

https://www.google.com/patents/USD65590?pg=PA2&dq=65,590+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QWH0UY_EKY-C9QSPxIFY&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=65%2C590%20bottle&f=false




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The upper exterior of the Chrysler building ...


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