IN SEARCH OF / NON-ABM / FANCY-IMAGE / CROWN SODA BOTTLES

[SODAPOPBOB]

Next examination ...

Ancient Egyptian bottles ...

 

[2find4me]

Does a crown top beer count? Not sure if it is really hand blown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEAT-Handblown-ANHEUSER-BUSCH-w-EAGLE-Budweiser-Beer-Bottle-NORFOLK-VA-Branch-/380588130830?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589cd2020e&nma=true&si=EsOM9dxanXvSvvLVpEqLZgnOQZU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

2f4m ~

Some might object to a beer bottle on a soda bottle thread, but I see no real harm in it. I'm not sure if it's hand blown either, but comparing it to the last bottle on this link, which is described as a "tooled crown," it appears to be the same bottle. Nice bottle irregardless and cool image of an eagle. I didn't realize Anheuser-Busch made such a variety of bottles over the years. Check'em out.

Thanks for sharing.

Bob

http://brucemobley.com/beerbottlelibrary/mo/stlouis/anheuser.htm

 

[lblackvelvet]

Hello Bob, I sent you a couple PM'S about the Pyramid bottle, Did you receive them ? And for the Anheuser, I have the same bottle, Mine is blown and the top is tooled from Norfolk as well. Nice bottle !!!!!

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

Kevin ~

I did not receive your PM but know it's working because I got one from another member just the other day.

Bob

 

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P.S.

Kevin ~

I just sent you a PM with my personal email address. Please let me know if you did not receive it.

Thanks

Bob

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

... where did bottle designer George N. Mas of Lynchburg, Virginia get the inspiration for bottle patent number 65,590?

While conducting an examination of the 'drooping pattern' on the George N. Mas' bottle patent pictured above, I discovered a similar pattern on the two-handled glass jar pictured below. The jar is said to be made of glass and Egyptian from circa 1390-1352 .B.C.

King Tutankhamen's reign is said to have been ...

New Kingdom
Dynasty 18
1336 to 1327 B.C.

The pattern originated prior to King Tutankhamen's reign and was likely still popular in the sixteen years between about 1336 B.C. and 1352 B.C. But irregardless of the exact timeline, the pattern is said to be ancient Egyptian and is a typical Egyptian motif from the period. Egyptian artifacts like the two-handled glass jar were well known, documented, and on display in museums and art journals by the time George Mas came along and started designing bottles in the 1920s. And even though we will likely never know for certain where George Mas got the inspiration for his bottle, I believe there is a possibility he got it from studying ancient Egyptian art, especially ancient Egyptian glass.

Bob

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Egyptian Malqata Glasswear:

http://metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/548611?rpp=20&pg=1&gallerynos=119&ft=*&what=Glass&pos=9

http://metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-collections?&ft=*&gallerynos=119&what=Glass&pg=1

(To be continued)

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

ORIGINAL: SODAPOPBOB

Additional references to ancient Egyptian glass and bottles ...

" More significant was the discovery during the 1920s of a delicate glass sceptre, which was among the legendary treasures of Tutankhamoun."

http://www.italmole.com/history_from_glass.htm

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Glass / King Tut's Tomb

http://blog.cmog.org/2012/04/03/glass-of-king-tut-dr-brills-research-on-the-ancient-egyptian-glass-from-tutankhamuns-tomb/

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Ancient Egyptian Glass Factory

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/science/21glas.html?_r=0

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Egyptian Bottles: (This is where I got the previously posted back & white image. Notice that bottle #1 is described as being made of glass).

http://chestofbooks.com/reference/American-Cyclopaedia-1/Bottle.html#.UfUeBNHn-1t

http://www.bible-history.com/ibh/Egyptian+Customs/Bottles/Bottles+and+Vases

Bob

(To be continued)

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

I'm hoping this post will conclude my examination of early Deco Soda Bottles and what might have influenced them. I apologize for digging deeper into the subject than originally intended, but as it sometimes happens I get carried away with my research, especially when I feel I am hot on the trail of something significant. In any event, I still stand on the belief that had King Tutankhamen's tomb not been discovered in 1922, which required eleven years to fully excavate through 1933, that there would have been no art deco movement in the United States, at least not as we know it today.

I fully realize that not every deco soda bottle contains elements of Egyptian influence, but I believe that many of them do. Take for example the designs of Paul A. Ginter, who Digger Odell included among the more prominent designers of the 1920s. I found no less than about thirty of Paul's designs, almost a third of which appear to me as having a distinct Egyptian look. But just as interesting are the "filed for" dates on the patents. Every one the the nine listed below were filed "prior" to the Paris Exposition which ran from April to October of 1925. And because of the pre-exposition filing dates, it seems to me that Paul Ginter did not acquire his inspiration from the Paris Exposition but rather from someplace else - with that "someplace else" being, in my opinion, directly related to the discovery of King Tut's tomb in 1922. As I mentioned earlier, the discovery of Tut's tomb spread around the world like wildfire and seemed to have influenced almost every aspect of life in that time period between about early 1923 and 1933. Based on the numerous accounts I have read, the discovery was considered "phenomenal" for the times.

As I have said before, this, of course, is just my opinion and I realize that others have their own opinions which I acknowledge and respect.

Thanks again to everyone who has contributed to and/or has been following this thread with interest. It has been a total blast for me!

Bob

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Egyptian Art Deco:

http://www.amazon.com/Egyptian-Motifs-Style-Pictorial-Archive/dp/0486484467

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Egyptian Revival:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/erev/hd_erev.htm

"There would not be another major period of Egyptomania, as scholars now refer to these periods of obsession with Egyptian antiquities, until the discovery of King Tutankhamun's tomb in 1922, after which Egyptian influences pervaded modern culture. Egyptian motifs would become an integral part of the language of Art Deco, a style that would dominate the decorative arts until the mid-1930s."

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Selected Paul A. Ginter bottle patents that I feel were Egyptian inspired ...

1. Filed January 1925 ~ Patented March 1925

https://www.google.com/patents?id=BVJsAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

2. Filed January 1925 ~ Patented March 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD66847?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LSr5Ue-MGYjO9AS02ICwDQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

3. Filed January 1925 ~ Patented April 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67025?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LSr5Ue-MGYjO9AS02ICwDQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

4. Filed March 1925 ~ Patented June 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67455?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LSr5Ue-MGYjO9AS02ICwDQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

5. Filed February 1925 ~ Patented May 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67277?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LSr5Ue-MGYjO9AS02ICwDQ&ved=0CFwQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

6. Filed January 1925 ~ Patented April 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67024?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uCv5UcWgJYaE9gSoj4DwBQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

7. Filed January 1925 ~ Patented March 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD66846?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uCv5UcWgJYaE9gSoj4DwBQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

8. Filed February 1925 ~ Patented May 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67278?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uCv5UcWgJYaE9gSoj4DwBQ&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

9. Filed March 1925 ~ Patented June 1925

https://www.google.com/patents/USD67456?pg=PA2&dq=Paul+A+Ginter+Design+for+a+bottle&hl=en&sa=X&ei=piz5UaqYFJHa9ATtioCwCA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=Paul%20A%20Ginter%20Design%20for%20a%20bottle&f=false

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Plus ...

A couple of original 1923 magazine / newspaper accounts related to the discovery of King Tut's tomb. This is the kind of stuff most people had to rely on for pictures and updates as the eleven year excavation progressed. (Click on images or arrow > scroll for enlargements).

National Geographic / May 1923 Original Photographs

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/1923/05/tut-discovery/williams-photography

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New York Times / February 11, 1923 Original Photographs

http://mitchellarchives.com/the-treasures-of-king-tut.htm

Paul A. Ginter bottle patent ~ #7 above ~ Filed January 1925 ~ Patented March 1925 ~ Both dates before the Paris Exposition

 

[SODAPOPBOB]

P.S. ~

Be sure and read the captions at the bottom of each of the 1923 National Geographic pictures. They are easy to miss if you don't scroll the page enough to expose them.

National Geographic / May 1923 Original Photographs

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/1923/05/tut-discovery/williams-photography