New ACL's for me from Napier's Country Antiques..Choice of the Canadian Pickers!

[Canadacan]

And here is a better pic from the haul of a few more classics! The Niagara Dry with graphics of the falls is great...not very old bottle being dated 1972 but a great label. The Jamaica Dry is one of the newest at 1980 bottled by Arctic Drink Mfg. Co. Winnipeg....palm tree's! ...gota love em That 16oz double cola is cool...and the US one is identical...there must be a 10-12oz in that style of bottle?The America dry is got me stumped, it either dates 1967 or 73?....there is a Kik Cola in identical style bottle in clear glass?...this style bears a resemblance to Pepsi's Teem from 1960 with the crossed diamond pattern. So I'd assume Pepsi picked up several brands back then as the America dry was a product of Orange Crush, and Pepsi at some point carried Crush, 7up, Dr Pepper, Hires and Schweppes. Any other brands that share that design? [attachment=Jamaca Dry.jpg]

 

[CanadianBottles]

That looks vaguely familiar, I might have seen one or two of those over the years, but definitely don't have one. I think Thorpe's had declined a lot by the time ABM bottles were introduced, the BIM ones are much more common it seems. The neck ring is interesting, brings to mind those Chinese beer bottles. What does Col'd Comp'd mean anyway? And I'll be interested to hear what your theory is on the message on the back, I've never seen that on any other bottles.

Yes the neck ring dose remind one of those Chinese bottles. Well the Cold with the apostrophe may be a typo but the Comp'd is for complimentary-or free. May have been a custom order thing for high end hotel or even steam ship cruises for the luxury executive suites. Or strictly free company sample given to prospective cliental.I'll check the directories archives see when they fell off the radar.

Ok looks like Thorpe & Co disapeared around 1934. Somthing I had thought about was that Col'd Comp'd could be abbreviation for Cold Compounded which is usually a term reserved for the making or distilling of Gin?...But it essentially means infused. Well regardless what it refers to it's very bizarre to see on a soda bottle.

I really doubt Comp'd means complimentary, since there's no D in complimentary. I also have a feeling Col'd means coloured. Comp'd I still have no idea though. Compressed? Probably not.

 

[Canadacan]

Well this was back in the day and abbreviations were used a little bit differently. Everything seems to indicate COMPD would be Compound. And that's a possibility on the idea that COLD was for Colored, But most soda companies conveyed this on the crown cap. Maybe it's 'COLORED COMPOUND' ? ..... I have seen COMPOUND on early Orange Crush crowns and that seemed strange to me until I saw a Crush syrup jug with the wording COMPOUND on it. Now I know Pepsi in the early days bottled syrup in 12oz bottles, I may have a picture somewhere. I'm sure many bottlers used this practise so maybe this bottle was used for syrup exclusively...and don't forget if it was it probably had a paper label on the back above this abbreviation indicating the flavor. I also recently seen another Canadian brand...syrup paper label over one of their own ACL's.

 

[CanadianBottles]

That syrup label bottle sounds interesting, I'd like to see one of those. Coloured compound seems likely, whatever that means. Seems pretty likely that this one would have had a paper label, I think most of the ones with the company name only embossed did. Thorpe's also had a weird bottle/jar a few decades earlier, a funny little amethyst one that is usually either referred to as a syrup bottle or an oyster bottle, which both seem like a bit of a stretch. That's one that I'd like to see solved some day.

 

[Canadacan]

Ask and you shall receive! This is a F & D Beverages out of Halifax N.S. .....the bottle was for sale online at very very high price. Now on this bottle they simply took one of their syrup labels and pasted it over the ACL. I'll post some of the Ward's Crush pictures next. [attachment=F&D soda.jpg] [attachment=F&D soda1.jpg][attachment=F&D soda2.jpg]

 

[Canadacan]

Compound is just a fancy word for mixture Here is the Ward's syrup label with what they refer to as A COMPOUND.And a Canadian Ward's crown note : A COMPOUND ...and underneath COLORED. On regular flavor caps you may or may not see the wording COLORED sometimes you'll see ARTIFICIAL COLOR. So Crush also used regular bottles for syrup. I suppose having it in a 10 or 12oz bottle was for small vendor's as a convenience over the jug. [attachment=Ward's lime - Crush 'A Compound'.jpg] [attachment=Crush compound.jpg]

 

[Canadacan]

The most amazing thing happened today! About a month back I stopped in at our local antique shop (Sadie Ann McMurray Antiques) They had a bottle crate with several labels, A few Cross & Co's with the worn out ACL/embossed style, 7up, Orange Crush and a Thorpe's like the one being discussed, and a few clear embossed's that I just quickly glanced at and then left.Today I decided to stop in because the last few days something was bugging me about what exactly the other bottles were...had that feeling that I really missed something! So upon arrival I went to the crate and grabbed the Thorpe's and picked the owners brain to see if he knew what the abbreviation was and he honestly admitted he knew nothing about bottles.. but suggested the Col'd could mean coagulated?...any ways I dismissed that in my head.I went back to the crate and dug through till a pulled out a tall 7oz ringed bottle marked Thorpe's Ginger Ale!!! wow how in the world did I miss that!...I continued to go through them and pulled out a tall 7oz embossed with the Thorpe's in an oval at the top!...My first impression was these are 1950's bottles and that my conclusion of Thorpe's closing down in 1934 was wrong.Upon closer inspection I noted both bottles had the IPG Triangle logo and were date coded on the lip.The bottle without the ovals is dated 1929 and the bottle with the two ovals is double date coded 1929 and 1930 which would indicate the oval logo style came out in 1929.Truly amazing as I've never seen either of these two bottles before!...(insert heel click) ... Maybe that brings the syrup bottle theory a little closer on that 6.5 oz? although it may still have been just a regular flavor bottle. I'm still trying to process all this in my head!..lol .....and now here is some pisc's! My new family of Thorpe's[attachment=Thorpe's ginger ale2.jpg] Dated 1929Embossed at top: Thorpe's Ginger Ale Bottom heel embossed: Contents 7 oz Vancouver B.C. [attachment=Thorpe's ginger ale1.jpg] Dated 1929-30Bottom heel embossed: Thorpe & CO. Vancouver B.C. Contents 7 oz[attachment=Thorpe's ginger ale.jpg]

 

[CanadianBottles]

Hey, those are interesting, never seen them or anything close to them from another BC bottler. I have a feeling that the smaller one probably wasn't just a syrup bottle, just seems funny for a company to make a special bottle for syrup, since that would be an added unnecessary expense. Also, would there have been room to fit the whole word "compound" on the bottle? From the picture looks like there would have been room for three more letters, which makes compound seem unlikely.

 

[Canadacan]

Yea I was taken back once I realized what they were. It could be a tough one to figure out!..the company has been gone for around 80 years now. The other bottle at the store was also dated 1930...and I've only seen maybe 3-4 of them over the years but never checked dates...It's possible that they just made the bottle for that year as a one off type. There would have been enough room for three more letters before running into the mold#.... but not the complete phrase 'Colored Compound'.Not knowing the other products Thorpe's offered or the nature of their business, as in did they produce a syrup for vendor's? I suppose the Vancouver public library may have something in their archives...I'll have to see if they have a searchable online data base.Have you ever seen any crowns for Thorpe's?....if they offered flavors they may have used generic caps...and maybe generic caps for their ginger ale . Ivan [attachment=Thorpe & Co..jpg]

 

[CanadianBottles]

Hmm, I don't think it is compound then. Wouldn't really make sense to abbreviate it. Compound is a weird word to abbreviate anyway, I don't think many people would know what the abbreviation was for. I have a feeling it's probably something ending in "-ed". No, I've never seen a Thorpe's cap, I never ran across any BC soda caps when I was in the province. Lots of beer caps, but the soda ones were strangely elusive.